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hasek1616 04-09-2011 04:41 AM

help with some stereo wiring please
 
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ive got this old pair of speakers i got off of a tv and im looking to hook them up to my ipod somehow, but they have this weird plug that ive never seen before on the end of the wires, and the best way that i can think do it it is to solder av plugs (the typical red and yellow ones) onto the wires coming off of the speaker (where the plug is now) and then buy an adapter to make it able to plug into my ipod, but i cant seem to work out how it gets power. In the pictures both the red wire and the yellow wire have a black wire next to them, would this be the power source? any help with this would be greatly appreciated, as im completely new to the world of audio, and if you hae any better ways of doing it please tell me! thanks in advance!

Anthoop 04-09-2011 07:04 AM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
Those speakers do not have an amplifier, the box in picture 2 is a passive filter. The wires would be positve and negative for each speaker, black being the negative. I presume the amplifier in the ipod is only powerful enough for headphones so you would need an amplifier to run those speakers.

hasek1616 04-09-2011 07:59 AM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
so what would you recommend solder those wires to? and amps are looking kind of expensive, are there any you'd recommend?

FahrtAutoRC 04-09-2011 11:35 AM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
Spring is very near, i would suggest getting one or an Ipod dock from a yard sale for cheap. The Ipod only sends a signal, as was stated it does not put out the power to do well with speakers.

hasek1616 04-09-2011 12:25 PM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
what do you mean by get an ipod dock? like an ihome?

buggyboy2010 04-09-2011 01:55 PM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/...ee9745145aen02

^^^ I pod dock, They can rage from 20$-500$, If You try and just plug those speakers into Your Ipod headphone input,It is very possible You will short it out and fry Your Ipod. Only options have already been given to You, Amp or dock.<br type="_moz"/>

hasek1616 04-09-2011 02:00 PM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
so say i buy one of those docks, what plug would i have to have coming off of the speakers?

Anthoop 04-09-2011 03:18 PM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
If you buy one of those docking things, they already have the amp and speakers built in...you just put your ipod in there. ;)
To make those speakers you have work with the ipod would be a lot of hassle and probably more expensive than buying the purpose made thing....put those speakers to one side for a later project.

buggyboy2010 04-09-2011 05:27 PM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
Exactly what He said.

ORIGINAL: Anthoop

If you buy one of those docking things, they already have the amp and speakers built in...you just put your ipod in there. ;)
To make those speakers you have work with the ipod would be a lot of hassle and probably more expensive than buying the purpose made thing....put those speakers to one side for a later project.
Grab a couple more speakers, powered sub and an amp, And make a "home made" surround sound system for Your TV Etc.


hasek1616 04-09-2011 05:35 PM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
i think i will just buy a system, thanks for the help guys!

hasek1616 04-10-2011 05:54 PM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
i decided i may try to hook these up to a tv, but i still have no idea how to do so, i imagine a tv would have the necessary equipment to run them, roght? and how would i wire the two positives and negatives that are coming out of the speaker? thanks for the help guys

Anthoop 04-11-2011 09:08 AM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
You would still need an amplifier....unless you take the wires that are connected to the current TV speakers and connect them to these speakers.
The speakers that are currently in the TV have a positve and negative connection, in the same way that these speakers do, the connector will almost definately not be the same so you will have to cut the connectors and join the wires in some fashion. Options for joining the wires are numerous, ranging from just stripping the insulation back and twisting the wires together (individually), to soldering, multi connector..etc.
If you are thinking of trying to substitute these speakers for the ones currently in the TV then you should check the impedance of both the speakers in the TV and the others, it is usually written on the back of the speaker. Also consider that the amplifier that is built into the TV is quite probably pretty low power...in short you really do need a seperate amplifier to do anything useful with these speakers.

Edit- ....unless of course you have a TV that already has amplified outputs for extra speakers (never seen it but it is possible), in which case you would just need to connect the speakers to the outputs on the back of the TV. Look at the TV manual or the connectors on the back of it, phono/rca connectors are low level so that is no, scart connectors are no...pictures or TV make and model will help if you are lost.

hasek1616 04-11-2011 10:00 AM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
thanks again for the help anthoop, i think i'll just leave the speakers alone for now until i get an amp

buggyboy2010 04-11-2011 11:57 AM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
Whatever You do, DO NOT open that back of Your TV, Number one, You could easily short it out and left with broken TV or worst case scenario, Electrocute Yourself, The tube in a TV holds a lot of electricity ( not sure how much ) even if it is unplugged and sitting for years, But it's enough to kill You.

DaveG55 04-12-2011 06:04 AM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 


ORIGINAL: buggyboy2010

The tube in a TV holds a lot of electricity ( not sure how much ) even if it is unplugged and sitting for years,
The tube does not hold the voltage, a large capacitor does and years may be a bit of an over exeration. Also the voltage is 40kV, give or take 10kV or so.


But it's enough to kill You.

Probably only if you have a weak/bad heart or a pacemaker. It may be a high voltage BUT, it's at a VERY low amperage. You can get a nasty shock but the only damage it's likely to do is when you tear your skin snatching your hand out. And, yes, I know this from personal experience.

And even this only applies to CRT's, not the newer flat panel style as the don't use conventional "tubes".

I do agree however with not tampering with the inside of a tv. There are plenty of other ways to hurt yourself inside one.

To the OP, you can get powered speakers for your ipod at any wall-mart for under $20. Nice, handy, pre wired and powered that plug into the headphone jack and will work great for any personal electronic device. They won't blast a room but are more than enough for personal use.

buggyboy2010 04-12-2011 07:55 AM

RE: help with some stereo wiring please
 
Exactly,I didn't know for sure what the volts/amps were, But was told all the time whenI was a kid not to do it... But now that I think about it, It was probably a scare tactic from My parents soI wouldn't take apart anymore of thier electronics..lol


ORIGINAL: DaveG55



ORIGINAL: buggyboy2010

The tube in a TV holds a lot of electricity ( not sure how much ) even if it is unplugged and sitting for years,
The tube does not hold the voltage, a large capacitor does and years may be a bit of an over exeration. Also the voltage is 40kV, give or take 10kV or so.


But it's enough to kill You.

Probably only if you have a weak/bad heart or a pacemaker. It may be a high voltage BUT, it's at a VERY low amperage. You can get a nasty shock but the only damage it's likely to do is when you tear your skin snatching your hand out. And, yes, I know this from personal experience.

And even this only applies to CRT's, not the newer flat panel style as the don't use conventional "tubes".

I do agree however with not tampering with the inside of a tv. There are plenty of other ways to hurt yourself inside one.

To the OP, you can get powered speakers for your ipod at any wall-mart for under $20. Nice, handy, pre wired and powered that plug into the headphone jack and will work great for any personal electronic device. They won't blast a room but are more than enough for personal use.


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