Still no answer to my questions.

Can a consumer substitute a Hitec or GWS servo if they need to due to a failure????
Can the consumer possibly change out a crystal so that they may use their own transmitter????

How about the receiver? Will a person beable to swap out just the receiver with say a Hitec receiver if the need should arise???????

Servo swap.... Yes, absolutely... That is what 'industry standard 3 wire' means
Rx;
You could easily swap the Rx and Tx for another brand.
As far as mixing Rx with another brand of Tx.... We are not ready to announce anything on that yet as more testing is needed. Look for more information about the time of release.

Just curious.... Where did you ask these questions? (Did I miss something?)

Have Fun, David

Reusable 72MHz FM radio system that includes industry-standard 3-wire brushless ESC and servos with separate receiver. Availble on six frequencies.

dribbe,

I will suck up a little here and say that it is the Parkzone Slo-V and Stryker that got me into this hobby. They are good quality for the money and you folks seem to have done a good job matching the components for the performance. I bought a Slo-V first and then purchased the pieces of a Stryker without the TX. Just used the Slo-V TX and all is well.

I now plane to purchase a Typhoon (once they are available) and eventually re-rig the Stryker for a brushless motor and lipo battery setup using the old Typhoon TX and a new Typhoon RX. Do you see any problems hooking a Park 400 Brushless Motor 4200Kv up to the Typhoon RX and Speed Controller?

Not that it won't take me about 6 months to get over the initial fun with the Typhoon before I start messing around with the Stryker again.

Thanks in advance.

I know this is going to sound something similar to my other broken record but how about one without the TX, receiver, and servos??????? No I do not mean a peiced together kit from replacement parts.

I would not mind a bare airframe of the other newly released model either.


Dribbe, I hate to say it again but I sure wish I could get some of these models without the electronics packages. I have been a strong PZ supporter from the recent past but I am hooked on using my Hitec Flash radio. I just love all of the fine tuning I can do with this radio to make a model fly the way I want them to. I just do nto want to have to search through a list of parts and possibly not get everything I need to create my own ARf model or get too many parts in which I may not need.

If there is any possible way then please get ahold of me via Private message if you need to.

Rat,
Once again, your opinions and wishes have be noted.... again.
Once again.... we never talk about 'unannounced product', so if we were working on something, I could not tell you. Those are the rules here at Horizon (for good reason).

Fisher,
Thanks for your comments.
You should have no problem using a PK400 motor with the Typhoon ESC, The Typhoon motor is pretty much an equivalent motor.
The Rx is also no problem. (The Typhoon Tx has a v-tail mixer next to the servo reversing switches). You will of course need 'industry standard 3 wire servos' for your Stryker. Typhoon servos will drop in, or you may choose others.

Have fun,
David

Dribbe, I was not talking about upcoming new products. I was talking abotu the stuff that was just recently released such as the Decathalon, P51 and the Typhoon.

Why don't you just go buy the alfa or gws planes? Parkzone is obviously catering to their market and you are obviously no longer in their target market. It would seem that you have moved on from the RTF to the ARF market. From what I have read it does not look like the ARF market is where Parkzone wants to be right now.

I just don't understand all the incessant complaining about a RTF 3D foamie. Horizon produces something, and inveitably someone will complain about it. Don't like the fact that it comes with it's own equipment? Either buy it and strip it, or buy a similar foamie which comes with nothing.

I can certainly see the point of wanting to use your own radio equipment.

There are numerous other choices if you want to go the route of installing your own stuff.

Rat,
I don't think you understand the point I was making.
If we were working on and ARF Typhoon (but it was not public information), that WOULD by definition be an unannounced product, so I would not be able to acknowledge it or talk about it. It doesn't matter if the RTF Typhoon is announced or not in that case.
I hope you understand.

David

I think some of the posters here are also trying to say that it would be nice to have a plane that is already built (RTF) and all you have to do is "drop" in a receiver, battery, and maybe an ESC and supply your own radio. The Typhoon is there except you have to get it with their electronics (and either use them or strip them). Most ARF's still require 1.5 to six hours or more building and I think some want to avoid that if possible.

Yes, this point has been acknowledged.

Dribbe can u help me with something from horizon

i emailed u about the eflite Park 400 and 20-amp esc problems did u get it?

Wrote you an E-mail.
David

David

I think it best that your company send me a Typhoon so I can write a review on it. I will even send it back after I am done but I cannot say for sure whether Canada Post may lose it in transit or not

I just discovered something troubling about the Typhoon... Has anyone else tried using an aftermarket transmitter and reciever with this plane? I have been trying to use my Futaba 6XA, but when the rudder channel is actuated, it causes the motor to glitch on and off. At first, I thought it was the transmitter or receiver, so I took the whole setup into the LHS and had one of my buddies there hook up his $1000 TX/RX, only to have the same problem. After much trial and error, we finally decided that the problem was a noisy rudder servo.

So I called Parkzone/Horizon and they sent me a new rudder servo no questions asked. Cool. So I waited, and just recieved the new servo today. After installing it, I discovered that the problem still exists. So a little more trial and error later, I discoverd that it isn't the servo causing the problem, the problem is that the rudder and throttle channels are phisically adjacent to each other. The elevator (the other adjacent channel) doesn't seem to affect the throttle. I tried three different servos out in both slots, and all of them worked fine in the elevator slot, but when put in the rudder slot, caused the glitching.

After looking at the RX that came with the plane, I then discovered that Parkzone, for some reason, bandaided the problem by physically seperating the rudder and throttle slots as far away from each other as possible on the RX. This works, and with the stock setup, there is zero glitching.

Has anyone else had this problem? Or know a fix for this problem? I'd really like to use my Futaba TX if possible...

Why can't you use your Futaba TX with their receiver? They are both on 72 mhz. Are they using positive shift or is it just the wrong channel?

I don't understand why their receiver design should have any impact on your Futaba receiver. I would look elsewhere. Maybe there is a servo wire crossed somewhere in the fuselage. The fact that they have a gap in the channel space on their receive shoud mean nothing to your receiver. More likely it is to accomodate some component inside the plane or to make it easier to assemble at the factory.

Sounds like you have an ESC that is defective. Try a different ESC.

Weird!

> Why can't you use your Futaba TX with their receiver? They are both on 72 mhz. Are they using positive shift or is it just the wrong channel?

Positive vs negative shift.


> I don't understand why their receiver design should have any impact on your Futaba receiver.

I'm not sure I understand your question. Their reciever has nothing to do with my reciever, they are just different. With the Futaba RX, the throttle and rudder are adjacent. With the parkzone RX, they are on opposite ends of the RX...the equivalent to channels 2 and 6 on the Futaba I believe.


> I would look elsewhere.

I'm all ears...

> Maybe there is a servo wire crossed somewhere in the fuselage.

I tried two seperate servos OUTSIDE the fusalage, as well as the elevator servo, which is in the same location as the rudder servo, just on the opposite side of the fuselage. so there is no way it's a crossed wire. Neither is it an antenna routing problem, I checked for that too.


> The fact that they have a gap in the channel space on their receive shoud mean nothing to your receiver.

What I am seeing is that for some reason there is cross talk between the rudder and throttle when the servo plugs are adjacent to each other, but not when they are physically seperated.


> More likely it is to accomodate some component inside the plane or to make it easier to assemble at the factory.

It's a moot point. The way they have their reciever positioned within the fuse, there are servo wires going everywhere. I think I would rather have the RX mounted UNDER the fuse in a trap door, rather than on top, behind the battery. The way it is, I have to fight with the ESC servo wires every time I change the battery. Not a big deal, just a observation. I've just been too lazy to bust out the zip ties.


> Sounds like you have an ESC that is defective. Try a different ESC.

This is a possibility...however, why does the original RX work fine?


> Weird!

Agreed!


-Ryan

Thanks for the clarifications. Now it makes sense to me.

You have demons! You need a priest to come and chace out the evil spirits.

That's solved! Next!

do typhoons really fly..?[&:].

Mr. Anderson,
I am a beginner currently flying a Hobbyzone Commander. I have had a lot of fun with it, and am looking to upgrade to something I can do a little more with. After reading several different forums on the Typhoon here at RCUniverse, I thought it would be a great plane to go with. But an R/C experienced friend told me to stay away from symmetrical airfoils as a beginner. What would you say? Do you think I could handle the Typhoon?

Thanks in advance,
Jay

It's virtually stall-proof, which is great for begineers (which I consider myself one) however, the symmetrical air-foils do not allow the plane to self-level itself when you let off the sticks...which can be a problem if you get out of control. I haven't crashed yet, but there were a couple times that I wish I could have just let go of the controls and let the plane level itself back out.

I would say that if you are comfortable flying a three channel plane, you should be able to fly the Typhoon. If flying a three channel plane still gets your addreneline pumping, then keep flying what you have until you get bored of it.

Just my $0.02!

Jay,

the Commander is a two channel plane. You have not even learned to use an elevator. While there might be a chance you could be successful, I would not recommend going to a highly aerobatic plane like the Typhoon.

How committed are you. If you are prepared to spend $220 for a typhoon, then consider this path:


If it has to be RTF -

Easy Star - RTF - $180 -
Super tough foam. Good parkflyer and a good glider
Comes with 72 MHz radio that can be used to fly other planes too.
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240025.asp

Aerobird Challenger - RTF Electric - $150 -
Similar to your Commander but includes the elevator.
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=HBZ3500
Review
http://www.hobbyzonesports.com/Disco...ID=1289#Page01

T-Hawk - RTF - Excellent Value - $170
Comes with extra wing, tail and battery
Flies well and stands up to hard landings
Can be flown on 27 MHz or 72 MHz
http://www.toytx.com/thawk3chrtf.html



If you are really prepared to commit, then go this way:


Entry level computer radio that comes with micro gear. These both fit that bill. Both are around $160.

Futaba EXAS -
http://www.futaba-rc.com/radios/futk55.html
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=LXJUV7**&P=ML
review
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=556
6 channels, 6-model memory, Prop Flaps on ch 6, Flapperon using 1/6, 1 user
defined mix. The particular package I have listed at tower comes with micro
servos and receiver suitable for parkflyers

Airtronics VG 6000
http://www.airtronics.net/VG6000.htm
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXEUY5**&P=7
This particular package is very attractive for small electrics. Comes with two
small servos and a 20 amp ESC. 6 channels, 4 model memories, 6 standard
mixes, no user definable mix capability listed. I can't find any info on the
range of the receiver in this package so I must assume it is around 1000 feet.
Suitable for low speed parkflyers only, unless you find the receiver has more
range.


Then get one of these planes.

T-Hawk - receiver ready
Just add the receiver from one of the packages above and go fly!
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/wittran.html

Or

Easy Star - ARF -
Very simple build with the receiver and servos from the radio packages above.
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240009.asp


If you are willing to do a little building of a very easy kit, this might be the BEST choice!

Magpie - I recommend the $55 package with two wings.
Has slow fly/trainer (3 channel) wing AND an aileron sport wing.
Master the first, then advance to the second.
http://www.mountainmodels.com/magpie.php
discussion threads
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...51#post3502851
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
Video - slow fly wing
http://www.mountainmodels.com/Magpie.wmv
Sport wing
http://www.mountainmodels.com/MagpieSP.wmv


then, finally you could consider the GWS E-Starter

GWS E-starter 400 - Simple Foam Kit - $50
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=551


I would not recommend the Typhoon for you. Any of the above would be excellent paths.

All great advice. Given all that, I would also add the Slo-V from Hobbyzone...it has got to be the easiest plane I have ever flown, and if I remember correctly, it is three channel, so you gain some skill with an extra channel, while at the same time flying a plane with very forgiving flight characterisitics. Replacement parts are also easily obtained for a reasonable amount of money as well--one of the main reasons I am a Hobbyzone fan!

I would caution you against getting the Aerobird Extreme...I bought the Extreme and tried to "re-learn" how to fly, after years away from the hobby, and had an extremely difficult time on take-offs. Once up to speed the thing flew great (but too fast for a beginner), it was also VERY prone to stalling at low speeds due to the wing design.

I have a LOT of room to grow into the Typhoon...I feel pretty comfortable with a three channel plane, but I would only classify myself as a novice. I feel like a total beginner on the Typhoon...but it gives me a great thrill when I get a good flight out of her, and each time I do, I get just a little more confident. It's going to be a while before I start doing any tricks...at least INTENTIONALLY...

Glad to hear someone is actually flying a tyhoon. Hope all is well for you. Mine just really pissed me off with defects.