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Old 04-27-2004 | 02:35 AM
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Hey folks, The Twist flies very well, does the best flat spins I have seen, but it keeps falling out of hover. I ran it tail-heavy to the point of going out of manufacturer specs, and it still fights a hover, and tends to 'float' now with the tail weight. My Irvine .53 handles it with authority. Wing incidences are fine and engine thrust is good too. Anybody else?

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Old 04-27-2004 | 08:52 AM
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I found out Sunday that they will come apart if they come in contact with the ground, just like all the rest of them.

Wasn't my plane but it looked like it hovered quite well.
Old 04-27-2004 | 11:51 AM
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Add some down thrust...dont quote me on this but this seems to solve my problems! :-)

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Old 04-27-2004 | 11:53 AM
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Got the feeling it's like the Somethin' Extra, no rudder authority in a hover. Think its got something to do with the fuse not having enough side area.

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Old 04-27-2004 | 04:50 PM
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DrPropwash,

It is my understanding (and contrary to what a lot of folks obviously think) that making a plane tail heavy is not the key to hovering. You will want to set up your CG balance in the 30% range (and your control surfaces with high throws). In essence what this is going to do is force the "balance" farther aft where it needs to be for effective 3D maneuvering. By the way, this is not the same as making a plane "tail heavy".

I flew a buddies Twist a couple of days ago and I thought it has a lot of potential with the correct set up. He was running a new OS 46AX and was not even close to being broke in. Hovering was a bit of a struggle but then again I'm sure his CG is not where it needs to be. In knife edge it kept pulling towards the canopy, indicating that it was nose heavy. It didn't want to hold knife edge flight very long at all either. All in all, it was a pleasure to fly but with the proper tweeking it would probably be a real hoot! I'm sure the manufacturer (H9) is going to sell a bunch of these planes.
Old 04-29-2004 | 08:49 PM
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I just test flew my Twist today - YS .63 - and I was not impressed. It falls out of every manuver I tried to do, it won't hover, it won't knife edge, it don't really do anything really well, I found it to be one of the poorer flying planes that I've flown. After a few flights I went back flying my 7 year old Ultimate Fun Fly. I am diappointed, after reading all the hype.
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Flew my twist for the first time the other day, it is a great flying airplane, flatspins are easy. I didnt have any problems hovering mine, just make sure you use EXPO . With its large control surfaces it doesnt take much throw to fall out of a hover. Knife edge is ok, I think with a little mxing it will knife edge fine. It also does elevators all the way down to the deck. Just my thoughts.
Old 05-26-2004 | 07:58 AM
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ORIGINAL: therotund1

Loops were nice and tight. Knife edge coupled badly in both directions, controllable, but you really have to work the sticks. Not very comfortable. It almost lands itself. Nice and floaty.

Glad I'm not the only one to notice the coupling issue.

I FINALLY got to fly my twist yesterday. Put 5 flights on it. It is set up with an abused OS 50sx turning an APX 11x7. These were the engines first flights after getting planted a foot deep in mud last year during the demise of my Somthin' Extra. The engine wasn't quite putting out the power it used to, but some adjusting will get it close, I just didn't feel like doing that yesterday because I wanted to FLY!

ANYWAY...the balance was set to the middle of the recommended range (4 1/2"). In my opinion, this is WAY nose heavy. It flew straight and level with no trim needed. Inverted flight required holding some elevator to maintain level. Applying rudder, in either direction, resulted in a severe nose pitching toward the gear.

I tried to get the thing into a flat spin, but it just wouldn't do it, on either low or high rates. In fact, this part of why I think it very nose heavy with the balance in the middle of the range...since the spins were basically almost straight down nose attitude.

I will move the balance back and see what happens.

I think it will likely hover nicely, but I had some trouble last night due to engine power (remember the mud?) and the coupling issue. It did, however, harrier nicely!

I think it will make a nice funfly plane, but so far I think I like the Sig SE better...time will tell.

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