Wing rock problems.
05-03-2007 | 07:55 AM
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RE: Wing rock problems.
"I'm sorry but I truly dont see how I am acting like a trailer park redneck idiot as you so kindly put it. I modified my plane a small amount and it made it fly a whole lot better. So people that modify their cars, their engines, add tuned pipes, take weight from an airframe...all modifications are redneck trailer park idiots. Nice" Quote Fly-Guy
Fly-Guy, this seemingly incessant need of yours to try to prove you know more than anyone else is a true character flaw and at 16 its just a part of immaturity. I really don't have the time or will to mess around with a 16 year old child. I am 41 and have been flying rc since i was 6. I went into engineering as the behest of my father who said i would use it my whole life, he was right. I learned scratch building from him in the days when you couldn't get kits for most types of airplanes, there were NO arfs then. You just buy a plane and fly it and haven't got a clue how its built or why it flies like it does. In the aerodynamics section there is another thread on wing rock. I suggest you read it. The seeming guru in there said to put stabilizers AT the wingtips. He is accurate in his discussion of wing types and types of airfoils. Lets end this on a good note and try to be friends. I don't even know you and therefore it is not wise of me to suppose anything about you personally so... I apologize for the redneck remark.
Happy landings, Curtis
Fly-Guy, this seemingly incessant need of yours to try to prove you know more than anyone else is a true character flaw and at 16 its just a part of immaturity. I really don't have the time or will to mess around with a 16 year old child. I am 41 and have been flying rc since i was 6. I went into engineering as the behest of my father who said i would use it my whole life, he was right. I learned scratch building from him in the days when you couldn't get kits for most types of airplanes, there were NO arfs then. You just buy a plane and fly it and haven't got a clue how its built or why it flies like it does. In the aerodynamics section there is another thread on wing rock. I suggest you read it. The seeming guru in there said to put stabilizers AT the wingtips. He is accurate in his discussion of wing types and types of airfoils. Lets end this on a good note and try to be friends. I don't even know you and therefore it is not wise of me to suppose anything about you personally so... I apologize for the redneck remark.
Happy landings, Curtis
05-04-2007 | 05:05 AM
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RE: Wing rock problems.
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"I'm sorry but I truly dont see how I am acting like a trailer park redneck idiot as you so kindly put it. I modified my plane a small amount and it made it fly a whole lot better. So people that modify their cars, their engines, add tuned pipes, take weight from an airframe...all modifications are redneck trailer park idiots. Nice" Quote Fly-Guy
Fly-Guy, this seemingly incessant need of yours to try to prove you know more than anyone else is a true character flaw and at 16 its just a part of immaturity. I really don't have the time or will to mess around with a 16 year old child. I am 41 and have been flying rc since i was 6. I went into engineering as the behest of my father who said i would use it my whole life, he was right. I learned scratch building from him in the days when you couldn't get kits for most types of airplanes, there were NO arfs then. You just buy a plane and fly it and haven't got a clue how its built or why it flies like it does. In the aerodynamics section there is another thread on wing rock. I suggest you read it. The seeming guru in there said to put stabilizers AT the wingtips. He is accurate in his discussion of wing types and types of airfoils. Lets end this on a good note and try to be friends. I don't even know you and therefore it is not wise of me to suppose anything about you personally so... I apologize for the redneck remark.
Happy landings, Curtis
"I'm sorry but I truly dont see how I am acting like a trailer park redneck idiot as you so kindly put it. I modified my plane a small amount and it made it fly a whole lot better. So people that modify their cars, their engines, add tuned pipes, take weight from an airframe...all modifications are redneck trailer park idiots. Nice" Quote Fly-Guy
Fly-Guy, this seemingly incessant need of yours to try to prove you know more than anyone else is a true character flaw and at 16 its just a part of immaturity. I really don't have the time or will to mess around with a 16 year old child. I am 41 and have been flying rc since i was 6. I went into engineering as the behest of my father who said i would use it my whole life, he was right. I learned scratch building from him in the days when you couldn't get kits for most types of airplanes, there were NO arfs then. You just buy a plane and fly it and haven't got a clue how its built or why it flies like it does. In the aerodynamics section there is another thread on wing rock. I suggest you read it. The seeming guru in there said to put stabilizers AT the wingtips. He is accurate in his discussion of wing types and types of airfoils. Lets end this on a good note and try to be friends. I don't even know you and therefore it is not wise of me to suppose anything about you personally so... I apologize for the redneck remark.
Happy landings, Curtis
05-05-2007 | 12:24 PM
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RE: Wing rock problems.
I go away for a few days and this happens?????????
I don't know nothing about nothing.
This is what I know. Profile & fuse 3D planes with thick airfoil wings, with wing tip, do not perform in the same manner. Greatly improved KE, harrier, roll speed and just tossed around allot better.
My thinking, remeber, I know nothing; the wing tips increased stabilty at speed, like for pattern or general sport flying. On landing, if you got it too slow it would TIP STALL. Up until only a few years ago, most pilots wanted a more stable plane. For 3D, I don't want stablity.
I was the first to suggest cutting off the tips when I had success with it on several planes. First plane I did it to was a ZN Line Madness.
Don't know why it works, just does.
Math don't lie, 3D does.
Wing tip mod planes:
I don't know nothing about nothing.
This is what I know. Profile & fuse 3D planes with thick airfoil wings, with wing tip, do not perform in the same manner. Greatly improved KE, harrier, roll speed and just tossed around allot better.
My thinking, remeber, I know nothing; the wing tips increased stabilty at speed, like for pattern or general sport flying. On landing, if you got it too slow it would TIP STALL. Up until only a few years ago, most pilots wanted a more stable plane. For 3D, I don't want stablity.
I was the first to suggest cutting off the tips when I had success with it on several planes. First plane I did it to was a ZN Line Madness.
Don't know why it works, just does.
Math don't lie, 3D does.
Wing tip mod planes:
05-05-2007 | 05:59 PM
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RE: Wing rock problems.
I think cutting the tip's just makes for better roll rate on this plane because the WS is too long for 3D. I bet it would fly pretty good 3D if you took the few inch's out of the center of the wing's core and left the tip's. I have the PA Electric Shock and it 3D's bad ass with the tip's, it has a pretty short over all WS though.
Don't get me wrong I would never recomend cutting the root out instead of the tip's I was just saying seems like the WS is just to long. I wonder if that guy ever solved his wing rock prob?
Don't get me wrong I would never recomend cutting the root out instead of the tip's I was just saying seems like the WS is just to long. I wonder if that guy ever solved his wing rock prob?
05-05-2007 | 06:35 PM
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RE: Wing rock problems.
Tappered thinner wings should have tips. I do not care for the flight performance of the Funtanas, IMO that plane should have airfoiled wing tips.
It's just the fat wings planes that do better with out the tips.
It's just the fat wings planes that do better with out the tips.
