For my new MENACE, I want to program airbrake mode coupling the elevator and ailerons, with low throttle. I only have a Futaba 6xa. Is this possible?

there are people in here who know more about programing than I do, but having had a few menaces can say that this plane stops on a dime with out the airbrake mix.
is there a reason you want that mix.
I have seen guys mix spoilers into low throttle.From what I gathered that is to force the plane down so it doesn't continue to fly on low throttle. Good for those timed events so the plane touches down faster after the maneuvers.


But to answer the original question, I do believe the 6x has the airbrake function...
anyone else......

That's what I'm getting at. I know the competitors in NCFFA use it. I'm just not sure if it's possible with the 6xs. thx

Airbrake is usefull on a Menace - just turn it off if you are deadstick or doing 3D stuff. Yes the 6Xa has the airbrake feature - but I do not know the programming steps. I am not sure it will allow two seperate servos for aileron to be programmed ala evelon - you may have to couple the servos with a y-connector and then mechanically reverse the direction of one servo.
How 'bout some help here from a 6XA owner ?
Or option B is sell the 6XA transmitter on EBay and pick up an 8Super. :-)

Hey pafflyer..

I have flaperons and spoilerons down with the 8UHS..I'm thinking just a throttle to *flap ch6* mix and offset the throw to low throttle stick??

If you have a 8S set up with spoiler>throttle mix, lay it on me! I'd love to give it a shot.

Yes, the 6x has airbrake function but I haven't figured out how to mix it with "low" throttle

I have a few 6XA's I use on my menaces and other funfly planes. It has the airbrake function, but you cant mix it into the thottle. You just have to use the airbrake switch. I have mine programmed in but hardly use it. You can also set how much airbrake throw you want on the 6XAs.

Thanks Ryan. that's what I was afraid of. I was hoping there was a way to mix it in but couldn't figure it out.

I'll be back in PA for the Summer--hope to see you at the Sayre or Selinsgrove meets. Scott

Airbrakes are nice to have on the Menace. Good when competeting, bad when just toying around. Keep that in mind.

James - What airbrake setup are you using? I've got an 8u and I'd like to get the right mix to try loop touch and goes.... Seems to me that you should have flapperon's on.. Then be able to kick in the airbrakes with a flap to throttle mix or something??

Can you enlighten us?

I got it to working with an 8U the other night..I'll have to get the TX to work thru the steps. All I could get was the ailerons to both go up when the throttle was brought down..the throttle stick position is adjustable so the spoilers go up at anything below "X" amount..I have it set at 20% throttle and maybe 15 degrees of spoiler just by eyeball, I'll have to fly it to fine tune. The spoileron wouldn't mix (so far) the elevator will have to be flown...also the spoilers aren't proportional. Pretty much up until the throttle stick moves past its set point, then down.

I do remember it was PMIX 4, and I used the gear toggle switch to turn it on and off.

I can tell you more when I get the TX in hand.

I would have to get my TX to get to the nitty, but there is an Airbrake function programmed right in the transmitter. Use that along with Pmix 2-3, one for each aileron. Turn Flaperon on, set that all to 100%, you need this first, then program your pmixes for each aileron up and down opposite elevator. after all that mojo is in, go back to airbrake and simple turn it on with the stick up a little, basically wherever you want it off idle. I program it so it all comes on using switch C on a Futaba Radio, thats the big one, top position. I use my TX with no dual rates, but just in case, I use all switches in the up position flying, just keeps things even when you 10 or more planes in the mix.
Hope this helps.

I use the C switch on my radio for flapperon's... but I haven't tried the airbrake function yet... There is a program setting for airbrakes.. but it isn't linear... It's just all on or all off... Is yours linear or just a fixed setting?

I believe its linier, when you set it up with throttle and hit the button, it save it as a certain percentage of throw at that throttle point. I will have to look at it tonight in the shop to refresh my brain.

I ended up figuring out how to set my flapperons so they rise below three clicks on the throttle. with out that I will probably fly right past the spot landing because the plane is so light.
I also have it on a swith so if I don't want to use it ( climb and glide) I don't have to use it.
with a 5 channel receiver it's a little mor complicated because everyt mix including the flapperons, you also have to create a mix for the gear channel ( the other flapperon).
I can't figure out any other way to get it to work.
so I ended up with a elevator to flap mix as well as an elevator to gear mix for full elevator to flap mix.
the same thing for the throttle controled spoileron mix.
throttle to flap and throttle to gear mix. they rise when the throttle is lowered to three clicks or less. this helps the plane come down faster. That can be set at any point of the full throttle range.
Took me a while to figure that out last night.
I don't know if you call that linier ????

and look at how they program the CROW feature on the Ultra Stick planes (manual). It is proportional with the trhottle setting. Not sure this is what you want, but it sounds close. (ie. Flip the crow switch, more crow at low throttle, less crow at mid throttle and no crow at full throttle.) Crow is both flaps down, and both ailerons up. I know your planes in question do not have flaps, but the same feature could be programmed to just the ailerons for air brakes.....

Just a thought.

Pugs