Flat Edge
 

I started my flat edge last night.... 6 mil Depron... CF tubes are epoxied into the fuse and wing..

Here's what I'm going to use so far:
GWS 350c dx D Gear Motor
12-6 E prop
1 HS 55 servo
2 HS 50 servos
FMA RX
3 cell LiPo's 1200 mAh

RE: Flat Edge
 

looks great paul, i am going to have to get plans to get me one of these planes going, That trident i saw at nashville was great

RE: Flat Edge
 

Let us know how she flies!! Where did you get the plans? Or is this another Swanny original?

RE: Flat Edge
 

This is a Don Helms design...

You can get more information on the his web site: http://www.crbest.com/edge/

RE: Flat Edge
 

What size of CF tubes did you used? And where to get it?

RE: Flat Edge
 

The 1/8" cf tubes come with the kit... but I'm sure you can get them from a kite supply place...

www.intothewind.com
www.airdyn.com

Flight Report
 

Boy this thing is a trip!!! What a blast!! Finally got her finished today and did a little flying around the neighborhood....
My flight times were somewhere around 20 minutes!!
Torque rolled her on the first flight... Did a cool rolling harrier... and harriered pretty good tool.. Might wanna dial in a little more elevator... but for now it's pretty cool..

Gotta love torque rolling in my front yard!!!

Here's my setup:

1 HS-55
2 HS-50
1 FMA-5 FX
1 GWS 350 D motor
1 GWS 1047 prop
1 Castle Creations 20P Esc
1 1200 mAh 3 cell LiPolly

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Sounds like a blast!!...B Bill

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Any reason why you charge the battery in a tin can?

RE: Flight Report
 

You gotta be real carefull with LiPolly's. Best to keep them contained incase anything bad happens.... LiPolly's are to be respected... If you inadvertently overcharge them... they will explode and spue their hot contents all over the place... Could cause a fire..

That's why I charge them in a can...

RE: Flight Report
 

Paul, looks good. I just spent this evening flying indoors with Jeff Williams. I have a Depron Edge that I designed. I'm flying it with a Razor 350 in a GWS D gear box with a 12x6 prop. All I can say is it's a hoot, and it is definitely improving my flying skills. Tom

RE: Flight Report
 

Tom,

Thanks for the invite!
Sorry I coulnt make it. Looks like it was a good time.

BTW,
Informal fly-in here on the 23rd. let me know if your interested.

RE: Flight Report
 

Hey Tom... What kind of battery power are you running on your GWS 350 D? The 12 x 6 prop seems like a lot of prop for that motor... Everyone's been saying how the GWS motors burn up really fast with the three cell LiPolly's... but mine didn't even get hot with the 10 x 4.7 prop.... and it had plenty of pull... I think I'd like to try the 11 x 4.7....

RE: Flight Report
 

I ran a 12X6 on my GWS can motors, and they burned up fast. I think running the smaller prop is what's keeping your amps down and not burning your motor up. The 11X 4.7 ought to give quite a bit more thrust, but it's gonna draw more amps and your motor will be hotter.

Bad thing is... I was running an 11X6 (12X6 cut down) and I though it was doing pretty good, then went back to the 12X6 and holy cow!! It kicks major booty. The difference was pretty noticable.

RE: Flight Report
 

So how long or how many flights can a GWS motor last? That's about $18 a shot.

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I found a place you can get 'em for about $10.... http://www.allerc.com/ check under Motor and Prop then click replacement motor's.

RE: Flight Report
 

Paul, I'm running a Razor brushless in the GWS gearbox, but I have run the stock 350 on the 3 cells without burning up a motor. The motor sure does get hot. The Razor just gets a little warm. Tom

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Tom - How would you rate the perfomance of the Razor over the stock 350 setup?

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I'm not Tom, but I've had both. I can't tell much difference between the brushed and brushless power-wise running the 12X6 on 3S lipos, but running the 12X6 I went through 3 motors in pretty rapid succession. I was always worried that at any time my motor might smoke. Then with the brushless, I just fly! I was running a Razor 300, that was too high a Kv motor and it really sucked the juice, that's why I went to the 11X6. Now I'm running a $52 Himax 2015 4100 brushless and the 12X6 and get 20 minutes of hard 3D action on a pack, no smoke, and grins ear to ear. This is basically equivalent to a Razor 350. I would have bought a Razor 350, or a Hacker 20 22S, but both were out of stock. So I tried the Himax and have finally found what I think is the perfect motor. I also have a Razor 400, but haven't tried it since I got the Himax. The Himax doesn't have to "wow" factor of the $90 Razor or the $100 Hacker, but it fits my needs. Love it. Tried to get Gator to buy one, don't know if he did..I think Ulf might have.

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Gator bought one.... I'll have to try his.... I'm also gonna try the 11 x 4.7 prop... but I think I'll chew up some more motors that way....

RE: Flight Report
 

I'm flying a 3DX. I replaced the GWS can motor with a RZ-350 over this past weekend. The big difference for me was being able to run at WOT without a fear of burning up another can motor. The first motor infant mortality could have been with issues I had setting up the speed controller and radio throttle travel on my 10X. Vertical pullout from a hover was much stronger. It was very windy and will get in another flight this afternoon. Still, when it was down wind it had no trouble getting back to where I was. Removing the brushed motor and CC Pixie 20P and putting on the razor with CC Phoenix 25 made it REAL tailheavy. The brushed motor freewheels, adding drag to slow the plane down. The razor will "catch" and stop the prop (really cool in a dive). Something to watch on landing though. My .02.

RE: Flight Report
 

Paul, if you want to try the Razor 300, I'll let you give it a whirl. I think on the D gears and 11X4.7 prop it would be a lot better than the 11X6 I was using. And I promise you will tell a power difference LOL...you have a brushless speed controller handy??

RE: Flight Report
 

Duuuude... That would be awesome!! I can get a brushless controler for sure... How would the Castle Creations Phoenix 25 do with the 3 cell LiPo's?

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It would be the perfect choice...I'll put it in with you guys planes..

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Man... you ROCK duuude!! Will it fit in the GWS gear box? Or do I need to do some modifications?