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Bosch 06-16-2004 02:39 PM

How do you hover a plane?
 
How do you hover an airplane, i mean strait up hover? Any tricks to it?

SWICK 06-16-2004 03:07 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
What type of plane are you trying to hover?

Spastic 06-16-2004 05:22 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
At first, it seems impossible, but them you wonder why you couldn't do it 2 years ago, it takes the right type of plane, setup properly, and practice.....

Gordo-ProBro 06-16-2004 06:01 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
I tie a string to the prop and have a friend hold it while I hold the transmitter and get a few pictures![8D]

mAvRiCk-inactive 06-16-2004 06:05 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
It takes liek a month man just practice every day with some random profile plane and your good. :-)

Dan

If the plane falls to the right correct with left and vise-versa and pull on the elevator stick to keep the plane in the upright position

PEACE

Gordo-ProBro 06-16-2004 06:15 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
Hey Mav.....I got those type of dirrections once on a trip to Nashville......ended up in San Diego:D

mAvRiCk-inactive 06-16-2004 06:33 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
Hey man 15 year olds don't always end up thinking right in the brain ;) It is weird though because after you can do it...your liek damn how was i not able to do that. I have a serious hovering problem because people(old farrts in my club) want me to test fly liek avistars and I start hovering those and if they can then I say they are gresat trainers(who the hell knows what a good trianer flies lie, thye are all the same) Well, gotta go

Dan

capthis 06-16-2004 11:09 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 

ORIGINAL: mAvRiCk

Hey man 15 year olds don't always end up thinking right in the brain ;) It is weird though because after you can do it...your liek damn how was i not able to do that. I have a serious hovering problem because people(old farrts in my club) want me to test fly liek avistars and I start hovering those and if they can then I say they are gresat trainers(who the hell knows what a good trianer flies lie, thye are all the same) Well, gotta go

Dan
You sure don't have a 15 year old mouth! Your mom know you talk like that???? :D
And by 15 I would think you would have learned to type, and spell! Man, what do they teach in schools these days? ;)

Gordo-ProBro 06-17-2004 10:12 AM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 

ORIGINAL: capthis


ORIGINAL: mAvRiCk

Hey man 15 year olds don't always end up thinking right in the brain ;) It is weird though because after you can do it...your liek damn how was i not able to do that. I have a serious hovering problem because people(old farrts in my club) want me to test fly liek avistars and I start hovering those and if they can then I say they are gresat trainers(who the hell knows what a good trianer flies lie, thye are all the same) Well, gotta go

Dan
You sure don't have a 15 year old mouth! Your mom know you talk like that???? :D
And by 15 I would think you would have learned to type, and spell! Man, what do they teach in schools these days? ;)
Dude you've been in rare form these days....I like it!:)

SWICK 06-17-2004 11:24 AM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
back to a hover "KIDS":D, I learned to pull vertical bout 1/4 or so throttle as it begins to stall or drop steadily add power till you can hold it keeping the nose up. C/G is an important roll so make sure your right on it.

check out this thread....considering this is an 8ft w/s SPAD with a homelite engine


copy this link
http://www.memphispropbusters.com/videos/spadcub.wmv

Bosch 06-17-2004 11:27 AM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
How would a wafer fuse morris sledge hover? best begginer is for a wafer fuse plane?

SWICK 06-17-2004 11:31 AM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
wafer fuse? never heard of it.....tell me more

capthis 06-17-2004 11:47 AM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 

ORIGINAL: Gordo-Outlaw


ORIGINAL: capthis


ORIGINAL: mAvRiCk

Hey man 15 year olds don't always end up thinking right in the brain ;) It is weird though because after you can do it...your liek damn how was i not able to do that. I have a serious hovering problem because people(old farrts in my club) want me to test fly liek avistars and I start hovering those and if they can then I say they are gresat trainers(who the hell knows what a good trianer flies lie, thye are all the same) Well, gotta go

Dan
You sure don't have a 15 year old mouth! Your mom know you talk like that???? :D
And by 15 I would think you would have learned to type, and spell! Man, what do they teach in schools these days? ;)
Dude you've been in rare form these days....I like it!:)
I was finally inducted into the torque rollers club this past weekend by Jeff Williams. This is just the new me! :D
Suddenly I have an opinion. :)

capthis 06-17-2004 11:50 AM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
Hovering is simply a matter of pulling a plane verticle, and using power to keep it from climbing or falling, and using elevator, and rudder to keep the tail underneath the airplane. No big secrets to it. Having larger controls with lots of throw helps, as does an aft cg (not tailheavy) Just at the rearward part of the range. Of course you will need better than 1 to 1 power to weight ratio as well. Now go out, and practice and have fun.

wild fred 06-17-2004 12:27 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
gotta use the left hand. bank and yank doesn't work well in hover! and practice. it helps to have a light plane with big surfaces at first, to give you time to think. and practice. use throttle and elevator to keep the nose where you want it. and practice. orientating on a non-moving plane takes some time to learn. reminds me of when I learned to fly heli's. and practice a LOT.:D

MOJO65-9or10 06-17-2004 12:39 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
Here is the sucky thing about "trying" to hover a plane. First you need to have the plane a couple of mistakes high. Second you are probably using a 40 size to learn with. Third I can not for the life of me figure out when the plane is falling out before its to late and then I end up "trying" to keep my plane from digging a hole in the ground. It sucks that you need to have your plane that high to learn because you just can't see what it's doing well. I guess I will keep trying.

Trying is a word I seam to use a lot.

Bosch 06-17-2004 01:28 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
I AM not at ease with using the rudder. For now i do not wish to use the rudder for hovering.

ChuckAuger 06-17-2004 01:35 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 

ORIGINAL: Bosch

I AM not at ease with using the rudder. For now i do not wish to use the rudder for hovering.
Well, then you ain't gonna hover.

Hey wait a minute!! Is this Johnny Rebel?? Long time, man!

flycatch 06-17-2004 01:54 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
This may sound strange but the answer to your question may be answered by an explanation given to me by an accomplished 3D pilot. He explained that air is a fluid in motion and the more air flow the easier it becomes to control a model aircraft in flight. Think as air flow as wave motion. The bigger the wave the easier it becomes for a surfer to perform certain manuvers.
He went on to explain that you need constant wind felocity of at least 10mph to learn how to do this manuver. With the help of constant airflow it will be easier to maintain elevation and heading while in the learning mode.
It made a believer out of me when I whitness his words but into motion. I understand this may sound to simple but it is certainly a starting point.

capthis 06-17-2004 02:58 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 

ORIGINAL: Bosch

I AM not at ease with using the rudder. For now i do not wish to use the rudder for hovering.

If you figure out how to hover without using rudder by all means let us know. You could be the first! :D

Rudders were put on planes for more than just ground steering!

ChuckAuger 06-17-2004 03:12 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
I'm tellin' ya, it's Johnny Rebel. He used to come up with this "no rudder" stuff all the time.

Time to quit wastin' keystrokes...

TailTwister 06-17-2004 03:35 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
A dude asking for instructions on how to hover without using the rudder?

Shhh... I think it's Dave Brown... [:@]

Anyway, I've got a no rudder guy here in my club, and he brings planes to meetings, and makes a point of showing me that there is a rudder on it, but it's glued to the stab.

OK, to hover with no rudder, go with what Gordo first said. Fishing line and cheap camera tricks are the only thing that will get you where you want to be.

I guess you could program your transmitter to mix the rudder to follow the ailerons at 100%, but I'm not sure how much you would like that either, as you would still have to practice.

So, let's say that you will need 3 high gain gyros, and an FMA Co-Pilot. Install the gyros on all surfaces, and the FMA Co-Pilot as per the heli instructions. Just mount it at the mid point of the tail moment and program it to fly the rudder and elevator for you. The gyros will help it stabilize it too. So, all you have to do is learn to tune a needle valve, and work the throttle to hold a steady altitude. Wait a minute, that takes practice too.

Let's see, either the fishing line thing, or just take pictures of other folks doing it and tell us it's you... :D

capthis 06-17-2004 03:45 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
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I use 16 gyros, and three copilots to hover this plane. I just hold the trainer switch down, and it does it all by itself. Getting all of it programed was a biotch though! :D

Notice the elevator, and Rudder deflected? All done with smoke and mirrors!;)

capthis 06-17-2004 03:45 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 

ORIGINAL: ChuckAuger

I'm tellin' ya, it's Johnny Rebel. He used to come up with this "no rudder" stuff all the time.

Time to quit wastin' keystrokes...

I'm finished here! :D

Bosch 06-17-2004 04:04 PM

RE: How do you hover a plane?
 
esqueeze me? I am for only asking for how to hover a fuse airplane strait up and down. I do not wish to spend $ on gyro. I will be able to hover a plane without rudder until i am accostomed to the rudder if i can get some good information here. I can follow instructions well.


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