Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > Questions and Answers
Reload this Page >

Repaint New Cowl

Community
Search
Notices
Questions and Answers If you have general RC questions or answers discuss it here.

Repaint New Cowl

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-17-2015, 11:33 AM
  #1  
OldRookie
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Prior Lake, MN
Posts: 1,380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Repaint New Cowl

I bought a Funtana 125 cowl as a replacement for the old cowl on my Funtanna 100X.
The new cowl is orange/red color and the paint needs to be removed and the cowl repainted all white. I am not sure what type of paint H9 uses for painting their cowls, so I figured on removing the paint on the cowl, instead of just sanding it to rough up the finish and painting the white. The white wouldn't cover the red/orange anyway.
What method would you suggest for removing the paint?
I plan on repainting with Rustolium rattle can.

Thanks in advance,
Greg
Old 03-17-2015, 01:39 PM
  #2  
scale only 4 me
My Feedback: (158)
 
scale only 4 me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Avon Lake, OH
Posts: 10,382
Received 51 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

What method would you suggest for removing the paint?
sand paper
Old 03-17-2015, 08:11 PM
  #3  
Pylonracr
 
Pylonracr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 918
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Yup
Old 03-18-2015, 03:04 AM
  #4  
OldRookie
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Prior Lake, MN
Posts: 1,380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Do you think the cowl will need any primer before painting it?

Greg
Old 03-18-2015, 04:47 AM
  #5  
scale only 4 me
My Feedback: (158)
 
scale only 4 me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Avon Lake, OH
Posts: 10,382
Received 51 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

Yes, you always must prime bare fiberglass parts
I used Rustoleme sandable Auto body Primer


If I were doing this, I would First try painting without a complete strip.

sand the cowl to the point all the paint lines were blended, try 220 paper, then hit very light coats of the Primer, it's Lacquer based so it can pull enamals and Polyu paints, but if you build it up with light coats your golden to add the white rattle can paint. Worth a try before you do all the work of completely sanding off the paint,,

good luck

Last edited by scale only 4 me; 03-18-2015 at 04:53 AM.
Old 03-21-2015, 04:16 AM
  #6  
tacx
My Feedback: (1)
 
tacx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: washington twp., MI
Posts: 890
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If your plane is a glow fuel plane I would suggest using Topflite Lustrecote. It is fuel proof and comes in white. Many people use Rustoleum with mixed results.

For prep, why go through the hassle of removing all the old paint?
Old 03-21-2015, 04:36 AM
  #7  
OldRookie
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Prior Lake, MN
Posts: 1,380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I think I am going to go with the advice of scale only 4 me.
I dislike any painting with a passion and want to get this done as easily as possible.
Did I say that I hated painting?

Greg
Old 03-21-2015, 07:38 AM
  #8  
jester_s1
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 7,266
Received 35 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

The easy way is to use acetone to remove the old paint. If it's anything less tough than epoxy, it will wipe away pretty easily. Just wear latex gloves while you work unless you want to spend a lot of time and more acetone getting paint off your hands. If the acetone won't dissolve it, you have no worries at all with spraying the new primer over it.

As for worrying about making it fuel proof, it's not a concern for a cowl. I did a glow Cub cowl in yellow Rustoleum and Rustoleum enamel primer (definitely not fuel proof) and it hasn't had a drop of fuel touch it. Still looks good after a year. Unless you're really sloppy with fueling your engine, your cowl just isn't going to get any fuel on it.
Old 03-21-2015, 11:34 AM
  #9  
speedracerntrixie
My Feedback: (29)
 
speedracerntrixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Happy Valley, Oregon
Posts: 9,515
Received 176 Likes on 151 Posts
Default

Scale has the best advise here. I would follow his instructions except I don't see the need for primer. And the original paint enough to provide a good base to paint over, feather the lines between colors. Rustolium epoxy appliance paint is a great match for Ultracote white and if left for a week prior to exposing to fuel is quite fuel resistant. It covers really well so no need to worry about getting the darker colors covered. For even better spray quality, run hot tap water over the can for about 10 min. Apply 3 light coats 5 min apart, wait 15 min and then a medium wet coat.
Old 03-21-2015, 11:54 AM
  #10  
OldRookie
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Prior Lake, MN
Posts: 1,380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Speedracerntrixie... Good tip on the Rustolium appliance paint. I was wondering how close the white would be to Ultracote white.
Jester...Good point on the acetone test to see if it will dissolve the paint that is on the cowl. It may be easier than sanding.

Greg
Old 03-21-2015, 01:23 PM
  #11  
scale only 4 me
My Feedback: (158)
 
scale only 4 me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Avon Lake, OH
Posts: 10,382
Received 51 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

The need for primer
1-minimizes how much paint you need to cover on your finish coat, white will cover over solid primer grey easier than red or other combination of colors
2- It's Lacquer based, so just about any paint will go over it,, where as some paints might pull the existing paint off

Acetone??
IMO, not worth the mess, smell and cost of the acetone,, and will take just as long as sanding alone. Besides you'll have to sand and prime before you paint the white anyway, all you're saving is the micro amount of weight of the existing coat of paint/primer

good luck
Old 03-21-2015, 02:41 PM
  #12  
speedracerntrixie
My Feedback: (29)
 
speedracerntrixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Happy Valley, Oregon
Posts: 9,515
Received 176 Likes on 151 Posts
Default

Scale, the Rustoleum Appliance white is a very high solids paint and will cover the red just fine. Lacquer is a poor choice for glow powered models as it will not withstand exposure to glow fuel at all. The cowl has already been prepped for paint at the factory simply doing a scuff and spray will yeild the best results in this case. Primer is great for when you need to fill imperfections and pin holes but there should be none of that in this case.
Old 03-21-2015, 03:28 PM
  #13  
jester_s1
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 7,266
Received 35 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

I've done this using the method outlined above with good results. I built a custom cowl for my Cub with a detailed dummy engine. I painted over the gel coat with auto primer and rustoleum, but then I found some flaws in the surface that I wanted to fix. So 5 minutes with acetone and paper towels took it all back off to the gel coat. I figure it would have taken at least an hour to get it clean with sandpaper. The acetone cost about a dollar, so it's not exactly a big investment to make.
Old 03-21-2015, 03:34 PM
  #14  
scale only 4 me
My Feedback: (158)
 
scale only 4 me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Avon Lake, OH
Posts: 10,382
Received 51 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

There's more than one way to skin a cat,, I'm just say what I would do,,These are methods that have worked well for me,, your results may vary

good luck OP

p.s.
I never suggested using Lacquer paint for a finish coat,, OP said he wants to use Rustoleum Rattle can white

Last edited by scale only 4 me; 03-21-2015 at 03:52 PM.
Old 03-23-2015, 02:16 AM
  #15  
sensei
 
sensei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: SAN ANTONIO, TX
Posts: 2,826
Received 17 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

This is what I did on my Hanger-9 35% Extra 260 cowling.
Before sanding, After sanding,and after paint. As already stated, there is no good reason to take off all the paint, it serves as a good base under your new finish, I did dust a light coat of primer and re-sanded prior to my topcoat application.

Bob
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Laser cowling.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	134.7 KB
ID:	2083493   Click image for larger version

Name:	engine cowling.jpg
Views:	105
Size:	60.4 KB
ID:	2083494   Click image for larger version

Name:	172.jpg
Views:	109
Size:	107.0 KB
ID:	2083495  
Old 03-27-2015, 03:10 AM
  #16  
OldRookie
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Prior Lake, MN
Posts: 1,380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I finally got a chance last night to test the paint with acetone.
The acetone did nothing to the paint on the cowl, so I'm just going to scuff the paint up and repaint it.
Too many unfinished projects from last year.

Greg
Old 03-28-2015, 02:38 AM
  #17  
TomCrump
 
TomCrump's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Traverse City, MI
Posts: 7,614
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

I'm repairing a few nicks on an ARF cowl. After filling the nicks, I scuffed up the painted cowl with 320 grit and primed it with Duplicolor high build sandable primer.

It is now ready for most any type of paint that I want to apply.

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.