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Old 06-24-2007 | 02:44 AM
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What plane do you think would be better to get a hanger 9 f-22 pts or the hanger 9 p-51 mustang pts? can anyone help
Old 06-24-2007 | 08:36 AM
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If you haven't flown before neither one....get a traditional trainer, I believe you'll have more fun and learn quicker
Old 06-24-2007 | 09:23 AM
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It's really hard to say, The Pts trainers seem like they are more advanced trainers, meaning if you have some sim time and a good instructor it might be a better fit for you if you happen to be one of those people that catch on quick. Also it might be a plane that you would want to keep in your hangar instead of selling it once you're ready to move on to a more advanced plane. Once I was ready to move on with my trainer(H9 Alfa trainer) I got rid of it because I hated the way it looked but with these new trainers I think I would have kept it simply because I like the way they look.

If you are going with the PTS trainer I would recommend getting good with the sim and have an instructor with a buddy box. The traditional trainer is most likely more forgiving for a beginner but in my eyes it's too dam ugly to keep around once it has served its' purpose.

Everyone is different so without knowing how quickly you will catch on and how aggressive you feel about your learning curve and what looks good to you it's really hard to say what would be best for you.

good luck
Old 06-24-2007 | 11:44 AM
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Fredthegreat,
If this is your first plane I'd recommend either getting a traditional trainer or plan on spending a lot of time on the buddy box. I have the P-51 PTS and I had about 40 flights on indoor electrics and then a 20 solo flights Nextar 46 trainer before I let the club instructor pilot put the P-51 in the air and hand over the controls to me. I had about 5 good flights on th p-51 but then I got cocky, had a really spectacular crash and the P-51 is being rebuilt. The crash was so spectacular that it was cheaper to buy the ARF and salvage the engine, electronics, gear, and tail control surfaces. The p-51 is a neat plane and I'm sure the F-22 the same. What I recommend is if you are new to this hobby and want to get flying solo fast get a high wing trainer to start, like the Nextar 46, and save the p-51 or raptor for plane #2. Of course all this advice is free, and since I've been flying rc for about 2 years I'm far from an expert.

Of course if you break down expert into its two component part you get Ex - a has been, and Spurt- a drip under pressure.

So with all this free advice has anyone helped?

Ben
Old 06-26-2007 | 03:50 PM
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Fred, You're getting some good advice here if you'll listen. Since you're a new member with just 6 posts, I'm assuming you're a newby looking for your first plane so the advice boils down to "Don't get either! Get a traditional trainer!" You'll learn to fly quicker and better with a good trainer plane and an instructor/buddy box setup and the inevitable crash will not set you back so badly. In our club, the Hobbico Avistar 40 has been popular and a lot of guys have learned to fly with it. It's also a great flying plane for fun flys and fairly aerobatic and can do the novice pattern, especially with a powerful .46. The "Select" package with the radio and motor already installed, will get you in the air quickly for about $280, but it's just a simple 4 chan Tx and a smaller motor that's fine for learning but a little weak for aerobatics. Tower will let you build a "custom combo deal" with the Avistar ARF kit, OS .46AX, and their 6chan, 6 memory, computer radio for $348.
Also, I just got a new trainer (don't ask what happened to my Avistar); a World Models Sky Raider I for $70. I want to have a trainer ready for my nephews, friends, and their kids, so I thought I'd try this cheapy. I've had good experiences with World Models and it looks like this one will be no exception. It goes together fast and flys great as a trainer. It's got a semi-symtrical airfoil like the Avistar, the wings a little bigger by about 150 sq in., the hinges are already glued in, and the tail feathers just screw on. The only problem is the color scheme is a gaudy blue and white checkerboard with the blue squares being a gradient pattern. The overall effect is perfect for fading away in the clouds, so be sure and get the one with a bright red or yellow tail.
I've seen both the PTS F22 and P51 fly; the F22 didn't have the slow down mods on and it was a hand full, especially in a cross wind. The P51 had the mods on and flew OK, but was prone to ground loops on the runway. It would probably be a pretty good flying (without the slow down mods ) and looking plane for a 2nd or 3rd plane, but definitely not a trainer in that config.

Hope this helps and you have a successful start in RC!


P.S.
Get a regular trainer first.

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