full face helmets...? I don't get it.
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Do you have the N number of that plane? I would be interested to read the NTSB report.
The instructor was an older gentleman (probably 60-70yrs old). He owned the plane and gave aerobatic instruction on a regular basis. I don't remember anything about the student.
I remember a Skybolt did the exact same thing in the early 1990's in Oklahoma while I was going to Spartan School of Aeronautics.
I have aerobatic time in a Pitts and a couple of hours in an Extra 300 at Aerosport in Florida. Those were the days
marriage and starting a business put my flying on hold.[
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I have a Lycoming TSIO-541 that I've been rebuilding as money allows for my next full scale project, a Glasair Super III RG. I can't afford the kit quite yet, but I'll get one in the next couple of years.

Doug
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O.k. I give.........The Cap and the Norseman can wait.
Doug, How did you like the Extra compared to the Pitts?
Oh! Now I remember!, Did Jimmy Franklin fly the Waco with the turbine under it? The first time I saw him take off with that set up I felt like " This must be what it felt like when people saw the Wright brothers fly." I never have been more awe struck than watching that plane lift off.
That crew has had some bad luck over the years.
Doug, How did you like the Extra compared to the Pitts?
Oh! Now I remember!, Did Jimmy Franklin fly the Waco with the turbine under it? The first time I saw him take off with that set up I felt like " This must be what it felt like when people saw the Wright brothers fly." I never have been more awe struck than watching that plane lift off.
That crew has had some bad luck over the years.
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At first, I was all over the place in the Extra. The control forces were very light around center. I had a hard time keeping up with it! I only had three lessons in the Extra. It was so slippery... As soon as the nose went down the airspeed just shot up to Vne[X(] I scared myself more than once
Haha I remember the instructor going "Woah! Easy now, Doug.. Watch the G's!" To me, the Pitts just "fit" After an hour of take off and landings, I felt as comfortable in it as I do my Cherokee.
Yep! That was Jimmy in the Jet Waco. Jimmy Franklin and Bobby Younkin were killed in a mid air collision. Last year, Jim LeRoy was killed at the Dayton Airshow. They have lost more than their fair share[
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Haha I remember the instructor going "Woah! Easy now, Doug.. Watch the G's!" To me, the Pitts just "fit" After an hour of take off and landings, I felt as comfortable in it as I do my Cherokee.Yep! That was Jimmy in the Jet Waco. Jimmy Franklin and Bobby Younkin were killed in a mid air collision. Last year, Jim LeRoy was killed at the Dayton Airshow. They have lost more than their fair share[
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I don't remember the N number. The plane was based at Portage Co. Airport in Ohio. If I remember correctly, the crash was about 7-8 years ago.
I don't remember the N number. The plane was based at Portage Co. Airport in Ohio. If I remember correctly, the crash was about 7-8 years ago.
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Jerry
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I don't know what to tell you Jerry. It was on the news, It was talked about heavily at the airport that I work at. I'll ask around and see what I can find out. But, I assure you, there was a fatal Christen Eagle crash very close to 29G. Also, I can tell you that there have been many many more fatal crashes than the 5 you found!
Off the top of my head:
THis year:
Cleveland Hopkins Beech Baron 1 Fatal
Sandusky? 172 plunges into lake Erie 2 fatal
N.W. Ohio Cessna 421 stall spin on short final 4 fatal
Last year:
Wayne Co. Mooney lost engine 1 fatal
Portage Co. Mid Air w/ Lancair & C172 Several fatal
Several years back:
Kidron, Cherokee 6 stall spin 3 fatal enroute to Cleveland Airshow
Medina Co. Rotorway Exec heli crashed in residential neighborhood 2 fatal
Cleveland Life Flight Sikorski crashed while trying to land in heavy winds. 3 fatal
Medina Co. BATF Cherokee 6 Ice, Overloaded 3 fatal
Weltzeins Skypark C-150 Suicide straight in off end of runway. Vertical descent from 8000Ft.
Wadsworth, Cherokee hits powerlines 2 fatal
And that's just the ones I remember! Ohio is one of the busiest GA states.
Off the top of my head:
THis year:
Cleveland Hopkins Beech Baron 1 Fatal
Sandusky? 172 plunges into lake Erie 2 fatal
N.W. Ohio Cessna 421 stall spin on short final 4 fatal
Last year:
Wayne Co. Mooney lost engine 1 fatal
Portage Co. Mid Air w/ Lancair & C172 Several fatal
Several years back:
Kidron, Cherokee 6 stall spin 3 fatal enroute to Cleveland Airshow
Medina Co. Rotorway Exec heli crashed in residential neighborhood 2 fatal
Cleveland Life Flight Sikorski crashed while trying to land in heavy winds. 3 fatal
Medina Co. BATF Cherokee 6 Ice, Overloaded 3 fatal
Weltzeins Skypark C-150 Suicide straight in off end of runway. Vertical descent from 8000Ft.
Wadsworth, Cherokee hits powerlines 2 fatal
And that's just the ones I remember! Ohio is one of the busiest GA states.




