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Old 06-15-2009 | 08:52 PM
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Looking for a good plane that will be god for learing basic aerobatics. I am not looking at getting into 3D. Just basic aerobatics.

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Old 06-15-2009 | 09:07 PM
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what are you into electric foamyies, electric, small glow, 40 sized glow? and have you learn to fly a trainer yet?

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Old 06-15-2009 | 09:12 PM
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There are many to choose from such as the Extras, Yaks etc. one in particular that I like a lot is the Revolver. It's fast a bit heavy with great wind penetration.
Old 06-15-2009 | 09:19 PM
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I currently flying an Easy Sport 40.I have looked at the Revolver but was thinking something in the .60 size.

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Old 06-15-2009 | 09:33 PM
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my all time favorite model

46 sized cap 232 of all the arfs and kits I've built this was my favorite. Battery came disconnected at the top of a hammerhead

frenzy 100 is pretty good
Old 06-15-2009 | 10:33 PM
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Basic aerobatics..try Hanger 9 Pulse Xt- either size. I learned alot with that plane.
Old 06-15-2009 | 10:37 PM
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VENUS!!!
Comes in two sizes. Designed specifically for easy flying of aerobatics.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...XLHV1&P=ML
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Old 06-15-2009 | 11:07 PM
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HANGAR 9 TWIST! Best plane to start out with aerobatics... with a .46 and a 12 x 4 prop it'll hover here's mine flying on my FOURTH flight, 12 x 4 prop and an os .46fx

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W1k-5M0VBI[/youtube]

Old 06-16-2009 | 04:09 AM
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What you need to do is stay away from aircraft like small .46(ish) Caps, Extras etc. They're amongst the worse flying models available.Much better off with a Venus, Tiger or Kyosho CALMATO etc. They're all great flying models that'll dramatically shrpen your flying skills and speed up your aerobatic tooth cutting.
Old 06-16-2009 | 07:05 AM
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I'll second what David Bathe said
Old 06-16-2009 | 08:04 AM
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You need to explain what kind of flying you want to do and what kind of aerobatics. Planes like the Venus are good for smooth precise flying with accurate aerobatics thrown in, the Twist is good for yank and spank jam the sticks see what happens stuff. Both can be flown in either style, but each one does it's own thing best. BTW, the best flyer in our club flies an Easy Sport 40 with a .60 size engine as his everyday flyer and there's not much that plane can't do.
Old 06-16-2009 | 08:13 AM
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Yah smithcreek the Twist is deffianatly a plane to yank around the sky.. BUT on low rates.. landing and take offs are trainer like and smooth aerobatics are great
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Twists are great and easy to fly. There is one flaw with it however. If you put a high torque engine on it, like mine saito 72, be prepaired for the plane to exactly its name Twist. There are only 2 pieces of light ply right behind the canopy holding this plane together. I highly recommend anyone buying the ARF version to beef this area up before adding a good sized engine to it. Mine just twisted in half this weekend. Great show though.
Old 06-16-2009 | 09:26 AM
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Chrisa yah man I agree.. mines beefed up behind the wing saddle withtristock... I've gotten the plane at a full speed and pulled full upelevator and held together at the wings, also full speed and fullrudder and elevator and it held together! so ya that part needs beefedup but once it is beefed up then HOLD ON
Old 06-16-2009 | 09:31 AM
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No, I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.

A Twist is NOT the best choice for "Learning" aerobatics. It's stubby wing and short tail moment make it a great plane for DOING aerobatics, but they also make it very unstable. Something like the Tiger, 4*, Calmato or Pulse is a much more stable platform for learning with.
Old 06-16-2009 | 09:38 AM
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Miinnflyer Ido agree with you on the stubby wing and twitchiness of the plane it CAN be a handful and canget into a handful quick haha.. but that video I posted was just the 4th flight on the twist and it's my first Glow 3D Plane.. all I've had before that is a Typhoon 3d, although I've flown A LOT for 19 years old and have had about 15 planes in all and practice on the simulator a lot.. but the twist was very predictable from what I could see... roll rate VERY fast on high rates which is fun to play with and loops were very smooth. If you're a good pilot I think the Twist is a great first Aerobatic plane to get, just my opinion
Old 06-16-2009 | 09:38 AM
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I may be letting my age show here but why not a 60 size Kaos. I think Tower sells an ARF.
Old 06-16-2009 | 09:40 AM
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I think i may just have Twist fever right now hahah I just got the plane and it's my favorite plane I've ever had... i've flown it EVERY day since I got it 5 days ago! I love it and may not be best for LEARNING aerobatics but hey it's a fun plane!
Old 06-16-2009 | 09:48 AM
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Uh... No.

You learned aerobatics on your Typhoon 3D. Now that you have learned, you're having a blast with the Twist.
Old 06-16-2009 | 09:50 AM
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Yeah Minnflyer your right your right haha
Old 06-16-2009 | 09:51 AM
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Hi!
As Minnflyers says! The "Twist" type of airplanes are no good at aerobatics!
They have too short fuselages and wings are too thick and short!
For aerobatics you want a long slim fuselage with slender (tapered) wings, not that thick.
Kyosho "Venus" is one good airplane , but there are lots of others too.

Stay away from all those Cap and Yaks in semi scale format so vidly sold today, they are no good for pure aerobatics!
Old 06-16-2009 | 10:00 AM
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For some reason, many people are under the very wrong impression that great aerobatic machines should be twitchy and unstable. Not to mention difficult to fly.I put it down to a natural learning curve/ego flexing etc etc. Point is...NOTHING could be further from the truth. My F3A planes are so, so gentle and forgiving to fly, they'd work fine as a trainer. As would the big 33% IMAC's... so gentle and smooth they're marvelous. Unlike the smaller versions which become stroppy little b#stards the smaller they get. Believe me, if you have a plane thats a snappy, unruly little MF you've wasting so much time fighting it. A great designed plane will allow you to do a GREAT deal of adjustment both with the CG and Throws without as much as a bite. This'll allow you to concentrate on the aerobatics instead of constantly worring about what the planes going to do. As said many time, your need a plane that flys with you... and not against you.
Old 06-16-2009 | 08:06 PM
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     There is another plane. It is  fairly new but it looks like it could be a lot of fun from east rc ( the lucky thirteen). It is a sixty size and it looks good.When i kill one of my planes i am flying now and reduce the number i have i think i will try one on for size[:@]

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Old 06-17-2009 | 03:44 AM
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Im using a sig something extra as a second plane since getting back into the hobby.  I am starting to learn aerobatics with it, but would much rather have something with a longer tail moment.  The SSE and other fun fly planes like it are great for anything goes kind of flying, but if you want to hold a good line during a maneuver, then look elsewhere.  Also bigger flies better.
Old 06-17-2009 | 05:48 AM
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I second the suggestion for the Tower Kaos. The Kaos is an old pattern design, but its a smooth, stable flyer that is an excellent platform for learning aerobatics. Its still a very popular design in the Senior Pattern Association for a reason. If you look at it closely, it looks like a standard trainer turned upside down with a symmetrical wing, which is probably how it started.

A new flyer in my club last year moved to a Kaos 40as his third plane. Its been a reliable favorite of his, and he's doing quite well.

Having said all that, if you're looking for a more scale appearance, the standard suite of Extras, Edges, and Yaks also can be very smooth aerobatic flyers. Just don't trim them completely neutral like the 3D flyers do and you'll be very happy. I don't recommend the Cap 232 as a plane to learn aerobatics on because of its tendency to snap very easily. This makes it great for performing aerobatics, but not learning.

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