I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
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I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
I finally got my engine. I picked a rb eco,but i can start the little bugger.
My starter box cant turn the flywheel over and im stuck.
I losened AND removed the gloplug but no difference, well very very slight difference.
Please help.
Ben
My starter box cant turn the flywheel over and im stuck.
I losened AND removed the gloplug but no difference, well very very slight difference.
Please help.
Ben
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
loose your glow plug a bit then try to bump it.
i usually drops some after run oil to help it easier to turn for starter box
o yea, check your starterbox battery if they have good voltage and amp ?
i usually drops some after run oil to help it easier to turn for starter box
o yea, check your starterbox battery if they have good voltage and amp ?
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
All of the above, and be patient...heat soak is a good method, it will reduce the pinch a lot, you need to get it nice and hot...
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
Charged the battery jst night so its ok. I did loosen the plug and i put a hairdryer on, but prob not for longg enough.
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
I think ill sort it all out tmoz, and if worst comes to worst, i can go to my LHS.
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
Well having too much pressure isnt a bad thing, too little is. Im sure ill fix it up.
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
Have you checked that the flywheel isnt stuck? if so get a flat head screw driver and push on the flywheel so it comes loose again
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
I got it firing up, but not achually runnin without the starter box. It now has jammed and im tryin to unjam it.
Neo, what part of london are u in?
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Neo, what part of london are u in?
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
Make sure you aren't hydrolocking the engine. Try leaning it a bit to see if this allows it to fire. Depending on the weather where you are at, factory break in settings may be too rich to let the engine run (as was the case with my OS RG). Also, it sounds silly but make sure the idle opening is not fully closed.
Also, try to give your starter box as much help as you can. Examine which way your engine rotates when starting. Take the flywheel and spin it the reverse of this direction just until you start to feel resistance. This way when you put your engine back on the starter box, you will give the box a chance to get the flywheel spinning quickly as it spins through the lower end of the piston stroke, before the piston travels back up through the pinch. Also, make sure you push the car down on the box lightly to get the starter box wheel spinning to full speed before you press the car's flywheel down onto it.
Edit: If you are unfamiliar with the term hydrolocking, it means the engine has become flooded with too much fuel to for the piston to compress (usually a result of a bad plug, or carb tuning that is too rich). To remedy this, you need to remove the glow plug and bump start the engine to remove excess fuel (don't stand over the glow plug hole when you do this to avoid fuel in the eyes).
Also, try to give your starter box as much help as you can. Examine which way your engine rotates when starting. Take the flywheel and spin it the reverse of this direction just until you start to feel resistance. This way when you put your engine back on the starter box, you will give the box a chance to get the flywheel spinning quickly as it spins through the lower end of the piston stroke, before the piston travels back up through the pinch. Also, make sure you push the car down on the box lightly to get the starter box wheel spinning to full speed before you press the car's flywheel down onto it.
Edit: If you are unfamiliar with the term hydrolocking, it means the engine has become flooded with too much fuel to for the piston to compress (usually a result of a bad plug, or carb tuning that is too rich). To remedy this, you need to remove the glow plug and bump start the engine to remove excess fuel (don't stand over the glow plug hole when you do this to avoid fuel in the eyes).
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
Let us know how it performs.It's the cheapest among the rb line and i was always wondering how it goes next to other cheap engines.
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
After two blown engines I am begening to get the hang of it mate. Take out the glow plug and put a small wire in the hole. Try to turn the engine over at the flywheel. If there is no sign of movement at all you may have broken a rod. Take the rear plate off the motor and look inside and hope it is all right. If there is nothing wrong in there attempt to move the piston up and down again at the flywheel. Place your glow plug in the glow starter to see if it works. Depending on your area you may need a hoter glow plug and make sure you run the motor rich and don't lean out anymore than necessary to get the motor to wind up with a lag. Always use at least 8 tankfuls of fuel to break in your new motor and you won't throw them in the trash as I have done. Go for it Mate. wo
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
i got it to like make the startin up noise but the 2nd i took it off thebox it cut off. I think its the pluug as when u plug the glo plug strait in to the starter, the end coil doent glow all the way to the end of the coil.
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
That is normal for all plugs. Some people like to pull the coil out a bit.
Just keep going. Leave the glow driver on if you need to.
Just keep going. Leave the glow driver on if you need to.
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
great answer
ORIGINAL: kx250ryder
Make sure you aren't hydrolocking the engine. Try leaning it a bit to see if this allows it to fire. Depending on the weather where you are at, factory break in settings may be too rich to let the engine run (as was the case with my OS RG). Also, it sounds silly but make sure the idle opening is not fully closed.
Also, try to give your starter box as much help as you can. Examine which way your engine rotates when starting. Take the flywheel and spin it the reverse of this direction just until you start to feel resistance. This way when you put your engine back on the starter box, you will give the box a chance to get the flywheel spinning quickly as it spins through the lower end of the piston stroke, before the piston travels back up through the pinch. Also, make sure you push the car down on the box lightly to get the starter box wheel spinning to full speed before you press the car's flywheel down onto it.
Edit: If you are unfamiliar with the term hydrolocking, it means the engine has become flooded with too much fuel to for the piston to compress (usually a result of a bad plug, or carb tuning that is too rich). To remedy this, you need to remove the glow plug and bump start the engine to remove excess fuel (don't stand over the glow plug hole when you do this to avoid fuel in the eyes).
Make sure you aren't hydrolocking the engine. Try leaning it a bit to see if this allows it to fire. Depending on the weather where you are at, factory break in settings may be too rich to let the engine run (as was the case with my OS RG). Also, it sounds silly but make sure the idle opening is not fully closed.
Also, try to give your starter box as much help as you can. Examine which way your engine rotates when starting. Take the flywheel and spin it the reverse of this direction just until you start to feel resistance. This way when you put your engine back on the starter box, you will give the box a chance to get the flywheel spinning quickly as it spins through the lower end of the piston stroke, before the piston travels back up through the pinch. Also, make sure you push the car down on the box lightly to get the starter box wheel spinning to full speed before you press the car's flywheel down onto it.
Edit: If you are unfamiliar with the term hydrolocking, it means the engine has become flooded with too much fuel to for the piston to compress (usually a result of a bad plug, or carb tuning that is too rich). To remedy this, you need to remove the glow plug and bump start the engine to remove excess fuel (don't stand over the glow plug hole when you do this to avoid fuel in the eyes).
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
I was about to go and lean mi car but NOOOOOO, mi starter box battery died, aah well, hopefully tomorrow. Its makin d drevvin noise more now so its gettin better.
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RE: I PICKED AN ENGINE, ands now i cant start it!!
I G O T, GOT IT RUNNIN!!!!!
Hazaa, this therefore prooves there is a g0d. I think i may of overleaned it lol, but now its ACE.
Ben
Hazaa, this therefore prooves there is a g0d. I think i may of overleaned it lol, but now its ACE.
Ben