help me out here please i need it and i can't seem to decide by myself

RTR's suck dude, buy a kit and put your own decent stuff in it.

they are not all bad....they just need servos and a radio

so which one would be a better race buggy hyper 8 or jammin

I have to agree with some that a KIT is much better. The kits come with better parts and hop ups then the RTR or at least I know the Hyper 8 does. The Hyper 8 RTR comes with a stamped chassis instead of a machined, it does not come with the carbon fiber parts and more. In the long run if you start with a RTR you will have more money in it then starting with a kit. All so the RTR has an illegal engine for racing. Out of the two I would get the Hyper 8 but get the Pro kit.

Get the Hyper 8 Pro for racing, the RTR won't cut it.