Better Engine?
03-23-2007 | 07:45 PM
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From: Kingston UK, but living in Athens, GREECE
RE: Better Engine?
Engines are for tracks. They are usually either top end (for sweeping tracks) or bottom end (for short technical tracks). To a degree you can alter an engine's characteristics by using a pipe that induces the opposite effect of the engines natural powerband, though this can be risky, sometimes annihilating the power band of the engine completely. It's best to stick to combinations that are known to work. Example, you can have a v-spec (a top end motor) and put a low end pipe on it order to give it more punch, however, this does not always turn out to be the effect, you can easily ruin top and botom by doing this. It's often better to match an engine with it's pipe, a low end engine and a low end pipe. Generally speaking, though this is not a hard rule, the more ports, the more top end, the less ports, the more torquey, so basically, you need to know where you are going to race, and choose an appropriate engine for the track. My S5 was cheaper than your v-spec, but I'll rape you round my local short technical track. 
03-23-2007 | 09:03 PM
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RE: Better Engine?
How many ports does the V-Spec have? If I am not mistake it is not many and is an exception to the rule on ports correct me if I am wrong. But yes rule of thumb is more ports more top end fewer ports better bottom end.
03-24-2007 | 07:20 AM
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RE: Better Engine?
NOTHING IS BETTER THAN THE OS VSPEC. PROOF IS IN RESULTS.
WORLDS WINNER AND 3 OTHERS IN THE TOP 10
USA NATIONALS 1ST, 2ND AND 3RD
BUY ONE TRY ONCE AN U WILL NOT WANT ANYTHING ELSE
WORLDS WINNER AND 3 OTHERS IN THE TOP 10
USA NATIONALS 1ST, 2ND AND 3RD
BUY ONE TRY ONCE AN U WILL NOT WANT ANYTHING ELSE
03-24-2007 | 07:28 AM
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RE: Better Engine?
Hincappe, I promise I'm not bashing on you, it's just you keep posting stuff like 'mugen is the best', 'v-spec is the best', it's all comparative...you come and race me with a v-spec at my local track and see what happens (you will lose to my cheaper S5). V-spec may be ONE OF THE best engines for longer tracks where top end is more important, but not on short technical tracks. NOBODY is running the v-spec on our track, and all the top drivers run RB, which by the way, is widely accepted to be 'the best' OFF ROAD engines, but again, not for every situation.
EDIT: SmanMTB, if you were talking to me, I know, and that's not what I said, I mentioned few ports being torquey and more ports being toppy...it's a rule of thumb, but there is no 'physical' reason behind it I agree, it just happens to be the case in most situations.
Hincappe, being a Mugen man, I'm surprised you are not pushing the Ninja engines. They are expected to be an extremely competitive engine this year, you should check 'em out.
EDIT: SmanMTB, if you were talking to me, I know, and that's not what I said, I mentioned few ports being torquey and more ports being toppy...it's a rule of thumb, but there is no 'physical' reason behind it I agree, it just happens to be the case in most situations.
Hincappe, being a Mugen man, I'm surprised you are not pushing the Ninja engines. They are expected to be an extremely competitive engine this year, you should check 'em out.
03-24-2007 | 09:48 AM
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RE: Better Engine?
the thing about vspec is not that its FAST. but its the FEEL of the engine. it feels so good when driving.
i have use RB but the feel not the same. RB fast but powerband not to my liking
i have use RB but the feel not the same. RB fast but powerband not to my liking
03-24-2007 | 11:11 AM
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RE: Better Engine?
Just speaking in general about ports. It just happens that most high power engines have more ports but it doesn't mean that more ports automatically means more power (see V-Spec).
All is good, just wanted to clear things up a bit.
I see so many posts here specifically saying more ports = more power and that's wrong.
All is good, just wanted to clear things up a bit.
I see so many posts here specifically saying more ports = more power and that's wrong.
03-24-2007 | 11:14 AM
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RE: Better Engine?
ORIGINAL: SManMTB
Just speaking in general about ports. It just happens that most high power engines have more ports but it doesn't mean that more ports automatically means more power (see V-Spec).
All is good, just wanted to clear things up a bit.
I see so many posts here specifically saying more ports = more power and that's wrong.
Just speaking in general about ports. It just happens that most high power engines have more ports but it doesn't mean that more ports automatically means more power (see V-Spec).
All is good, just wanted to clear things up a bit.
I see so many posts here specifically saying more ports = more power and that's wrong.
03-24-2007 | 05:22 PM
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RE: Better Engine?
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Engines are for tracks. They are usually either top end (for sweeping tracks) or bottom end (for short technical tracks). To a degree you can alter an engine's characteristics by using a pipe that induces the opposite effect of the engines natural powerband, though this can be risky, sometimes annihilating the power band of the engine completely. It's best to stick to combinations that are known to work. Example, you can have a v-spec (a top end motor) and put a low end pipe on it order to give it more punch, however, this does not always turn out to be the effect, you can easily ruin top and botom by doing this. It's often better to match an engine with it's pipe, a low end engine and a low end pipe. Generally speaking, though this is not a hard rule, the more ports, the more top end, the less ports, the more torquey, so basically, you need to know where you are going to race, and choose an appropriate engine for the track. My S5 was cheaper than your v-spec, but I'll rape you round my local short technical track.
Engines are for tracks. They are usually either top end (for sweeping tracks) or bottom end (for short technical tracks). To a degree you can alter an engine's characteristics by using a pipe that induces the opposite effect of the engines natural powerband, though this can be risky, sometimes annihilating the power band of the engine completely. It's best to stick to combinations that are known to work. Example, you can have a v-spec (a top end motor) and put a low end pipe on it order to give it more punch, however, this does not always turn out to be the effect, you can easily ruin top and botom by doing this. It's often better to match an engine with it's pipe, a low end engine and a low end pipe. Generally speaking, though this is not a hard rule, the more ports, the more top end, the less ports, the more torquey, so basically, you need to know where you are going to race, and choose an appropriate engine for the track. My S5 was cheaper than your v-spec, but I'll rape you round my local short technical track.
Its usually better to get a pipe to match the engine, then alter the gearing as you are playing to the strengths of the engine.
For example if you have a torquey engine, get a pipe to enhance that feature of the engine then gear it taller. The car will then have more speed but you will only lose uncontrollable low end power.
Of course the other way can work but the negine will never be performing as well as it could.
