Funny....none of the "Better" motors blow mine away.... [>:]

If I ever come your way I will let you know and bring mine and I will show you!

FoamyVictim If I see you out at B&T we'll have to race and see how they compare. STS 21B to a OS 21VG

I own an OS RG and two STS D21B. The RG is very similar to the VG and took the RG place. Both have about the same bottom end STS might have just a little more and there is no comparison on top end, as the STS will smoke the RG.

Well sure, but when you race you don't have long straight runs. You win the race on the short runs.

I do race 3 weekends out of the month and not only club races but series races as well! Like I all ways say run what works for you. For the same or less money I can have an engine that does both![X(]

I should have been more specific... excess power will not help you beat me at B&T or Foley(both relatively small tracks). The next race is THIS SATURDAY! Come & Get SOME! [>:]

Wait , I thought we where talking about the VG , not the RG ?

46u , I have seen You post all over the place "well , wait till it has 5 gal. on it and give us a report" , so I ask why do You have such a high curiosity about a motor that You obviously don`t like ?? Or is it that You aren`t going to like it till everyone else says it`s ok to like ?
IDK , just an observation .

So far I have 3 gal. on mine , I will say that the VG will not take the heat as well as the RG , I ran an a-main way too lean a couple sat. ago and it killed alot of my compression . Up until I screwed it up myself mine had unbelievable pinch at 3 gal. BTW , it still runs strong .

I was going to say this, too. You beat me to the punch. 46U, everyone knows you are sponsored by ST Engines, but give it a rest.

Manny

Come on! Put your money where your keyboard is... It'll be worth the drive I promiss!

B&T RC Central, Saturday... Be there, Spank my VG!

http://btrc-central.net/forum/index....6fb7a507554af1

Hey Foamy:

Are you near Santa Rosa Beach? I will be there this Friday.

Manny


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I'm in Ft Walton Beach, I live about 10 minutes from B&T. We might be able to get a practice session together Friday afternoon, and even if I can't make it, there's usually people there on Fridays getting ready for the races on Saturday.

Evidently you have not read my post as it explains why I am waiting to see these engines with 5 plus gallons on them. Yes I think OS made a big mistake discontinuing the RG for the VG as if any one knows much about engines know they are similar on the inside. OS took a good ABC engine that came with and air filter discontinued it for and engine with an ABL with out an air filter and went up about $50 on the price. Please read so you understand as I have said it time and time again I am NOT saying these engines are bad just they have not proven them self’s like the RG did and is why I am waiting to see how they hold up. The above statement about heat has to make me wonder![X(]

For the most part I like OS engines and have several of them but are all engines that have proven them self’s.

Any questions what I am talking about now??????????[sm=confused.gif]

One other thing being I own a Savage I keep up with what OS VG 30 owners have to say. I will not go in to detail, as I do not want to up set any one.

FoamyVictim I'll let you know when I head out to B&T, I don't thank I can in the next few weeks becaues I'm pretty bussy, but I'll let you, I have been wanting to see a 21vg just to see how good it really is.

Most kits and RTRs these days come with air filters, and universal filters don't always fit, so it makes perfect since they no longer include one. I'm with you, changing the metalurgy could be a bad thing, only time will tell. I'm on gallon 3, and no signs of slowing down.

I wouldn't put anything on typical monster truck owners/bashers, most of the time they don't know what they are doing. We all know how quickly a NOOB can kill a perfectly good nitro motor.

We're there on the 2nd and 4th Saturday every month, so come and play when you can!

I agree to a point other then I race my Savage not near as much as my buggy and I have many friends that have been in the hobby for 10 to 20 plus years that have monster trucks. I all so agree that many can mess up a anvil with a rubber hammer and is why I am trying to get all the input I can on engines with ABL sleeves. This is all I am trying to do and is why I keep asking not trying to start a war just trying to learn and get input. I hope my last post before this one clears up why I ask what I do!

Yes most kits come with air filters but why give you less and charge you more?
Thanks for the input and please keep me posted on your VG 21.

I never said I do not like the engine just said time and time again it has not proven its self! If I do not ask other then buying one how am I going to find out?????? I think this is s discussion forum and this is what it is for discussing! [X(]
Thanks

OS (like any company) is in the game to make money. Figure out the rest.
Running a business is not charity and they probably saw a drop in sales or didn't make enough money on the RG.

ok guys completely pff the subject now. i have a savage that i have never run. i got it from a friend in which i traded for some unused stereo equipment. the engine is buster needs a new crank,piston & sleeve, and a new conecting rod. i have 1 complete set of racing tires 3 racing tires on aluminum rims stock rims and tires several sets of arms including a set of aluminm arms which are on it right now extra set of frame rails and spur gears. if any one is interested in it let me know and i'll send pictures of the stuff i have.

Whatever the market will bear... same reason a pair of shoes in Beverly Hills can cost $5,000....you wouldn't see that price tag on a pair anywhere in Compton. The hobby market is a funny thing, which is why it changes so signifacantly from year to year.