Okay guys, I've been running nitro for the last two years and I'm about had it to HERE with them. To be fair my tuning skills are more to blame than the engines. I'm considering converting one of my buggies to brushless. I need to know the pros and cons from people who have actually converted to brushles from nitro. Take the "Nitro ROCKS" and "ELECTRIC SUKS" general comments to another forum. I'm trying to keep the content useful. Thanks for your input.

The only quantifiable "con" to an electric conversion is initial cost... Unless you buy the cheap chinese batteries/chargers. If you stick with name-brand stuff, it gets expensive quick. The other cons are merely subjective like the lack of noise and the smell of nitro (which is actually a pro in many peoples' eyes).

Electrics are faster, cleaner and quieter. But for me, I like nitro because of the added challenge of tuning an engine. To me, a gas/nitro engine is what makes this hobby more of a true motorsport rather than just another hobby like stamp collecting

I was in your same position a couple months ago.........decided to sell all my nitro stuff and went brushless everything and from my experince with the new brushless stuff I can tell you I dont think ill ever own another nitro car again. No tuning, glo plugs, clutch shoes, smelling like nitro after you get done driving it and all the other stuff that comes along with nitro cars. Just charge and go.....and brushless cars will smoke a nitro car....its the wave of the future.

until you run out of batteries than you get to sit and watch the nitros drive


and before I'm called a hater I own a brushless setup (just its not in anything since it snapped my one buggy in two), a few brushed, and 2 nitros (soon to be 3 once my jammin arrives) so I got plenty of each type

but yes if you hate tuning than go electric. Also the cheap $20 lipo batteries are probably assembled in the same factory, by the same little kids in china as those nice expensive $100 lipos


the pro's and cons hmm I did a 1/10th ST from nitro to electric the only con I can think of is if you don't buy a conversion kit (or they don't make one in my case) trying to find a motor mount and pinion to fit the spur gear is a royal pain in the ass. Pro probably cheaper and more durable than a dedicated electric vehicle (this can change depending on what you have and use)

El Tigre...Pm me any question's and ill be happy to oblige.

Thanks.

I need to clarify.

I'm intrigued on how I could run two batteries in parellel as well as what is the best battery size/ESC/motor combo to go with. I'm leaning toward getting the Tekin V3 RC8T conversion kit and building from there. I like to keep mechanical brakes and a clutch to increase tunability.

Bear in mind that I know NOTHING about lipo. I'm trying to read up and talk to people who have been there and done that to get smart.

my opinion is brushless belongs on touring cars and small scale R/c's.

its big money for brushless, plus you have to wait for it to charge after a run.

i mean yeah, they can move out really well, but the setup is heavier.

in all its up to you, not having to tune is nice, charging sucks, paying for fuel sucks too, the sound and smell is energizing, but it can leave you with watery eyes, electric is quiet and you will miss that sound. electric has a "toyish" feel to it, but nitro is messy.

I saw this one for sale. Take a look and give me your thoughts. It's a Rc8t limited edition converted to electric with the elite rc mount and elite rc battery trays i flipped the motor around to run saddle pack it also has the bce chassis and the factory team spindles / knuckles
and factory team rear uprights and and the factory team aluminum stub axles and the factory team toe blocks and titanium nitride hinge pins all hop ups are new never used except for chassis it also has a tekin rx8 esc and a tekin t8 2000kv truggy motor and a custom esc and servo mount.







Should I jump on this one. It runs dual batteries like I want to do

that is a NIIIIIICE set-up...i vote pick it up asap.

But Un pinch the red splitter wire.

I need a sanity check. The rig above is $700. I can buy everything below new for $700 as well. Which way should I go?

Tekno RC V3 Brushless Kit for Associated RC8T/SC8 (42mm Castle/Tekin Motors)
Castle Creations Mamba Monster 1/8th Scale Brushless Car Package (2200kV)
Hyperion EOS 0615i 6S Duo III Balancing Charger
Team Losi LiPo Protection Pouch, Large (qty 2)

Tekin if it were me.....im personally not a fan of the tekno Chassis or clutch...more stuff to worry about that isn't needed.

615i is right on the money.

jump on it, i want to see that thing run at VRP and loganville lol

I'm supposed to get back with the guy on Monday to work out the logistics.

Go for it. Looks like a very nice set up.Does it come complete with charger and battery packs??? If so its a pretty good deal.

I called the guy and he said he would call me back which he never did. I'm not chasing somebody down to give them my money. It would be cheaper for me to convert my Nitro RC8T using the same setup and everything would be new. So I'm looking to order everything I need and do the build myself.

I think that is a smart move because you will know exactly what you have and you know it will last and its not some worn out crap.
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The biggest thing was trying to figure out how to configure everything and the guy has a nice clean configuration. So I'm gonna replicate it minus the $60 a pop battery trays. The $12 Tekno trays will work just fine. Building it out myself will enable me to include 4 ZIPPY Flightmax 5800mAh 4S1P 30C batteries for the same 700 bucks I was gonna pay the guy. He had TONS of spares that sweetened the deal, but I'm not hurting on parts. Right now this is what I'm looking at getting for around $700. Let me know if anything looks out of wack. I need some opinions on pinion/spur gear size for both technical and wide open tracks

Castle Creations Mamba Monster 1/8th Scale Brushless Car Package (2200kV)
Elite RC ERC-RC8 Motor Mount
2x Tekno RC V3 Battery Tray (150x50mm)
2x Tekno RC Battery Straps (black
2x Traxxas Connector Set (Male/Female)
4x ZIPPY Flightmax 5000mAh 4S1P 40C batteries

I'm also getting the Hyperion EOS 0615i 6S Duo III Balancing Charger for $269.99 but I'm not including it in the build cost

cough*cough* Tekin cough* cough*

The Tekin costs about $60 more than the Mamba and the Tekin HotWire PC Interface costs another $30 which is a $90 different in price between the two because the Mamba's tunning software is free.

I would be hard press to believe that if I drove the Tekin and then drove the Mamba that I would say "DAMN, I can see why the Tekin cost $90 more." If there is that big a speed difference then if would be WAY too much power to control during a race cause I know that the Mamba's haul much assz

cough*cough* I can use that extra money for batteries. cough*cough*

Tekin is so much smoother at low speeds then the MM...night and day difference..... the MM feel terrible off the jumps and in the infield...the Tekin is far superior to race with IMO.....

Nitro's are still getting the fastest laps on most tracks guys....so BL doesn't smoke Nitro when it comes to racing ...BL will never take over nitro ! I have no issue with BL, i even race a BL car, but the reality is BL will always be nothing more then a fringe interest next to nitro..

Okay, that statement falls in with the generic "ELECTRIC SUKS NITRO RUES" comments that are non condusive to what I'm trying to do which is learn and get information. Take it somewhere else. Thanks.

Can you clarify what you mean when you say the MM feel terrible at low speeds, is it jerky? is it like two speeds, stand still and full throttle? with no midrange in between? Help me understand. While I won't pay extra for speed, I will pay extra for drivability.

right on the money tigre......the CC system hits like a Brick Shi* house off the bottom end...there's no linear feel to it what so ever and feels overly dull off the jumps.....the tekin is WELL worth the extra 90$....every time i drive a CC system im reminded of how glad i am i wen t with the Tekin.

Supertib is defending his Nitro background and stating facts.....he's sick of the BL bandwagon stating things like " nitro is a thing of the past" and " Nitro motors have peaked in performance and wont get any better. or " BL beat's nitro around the track all the time" when its simple Not the case.

That makes sense, I want the midrange to be smooth like nitro, not jerky.

I got that Supertib is defending Nitro, I'm not saying that BL is faster than Nitro. They can be the same speed for all I care. I will say that BL is WAY less labor intensive to prep for a race than Nitro. I travel 50% out of the state and when I return Friday night for a race Saturday morning, I only want to plug in my batteries and be done with it.

Anywho I started this thread to learn more about BL from those with more experience like yourself, not bash nitro or defend BL. So generic "ELECTRIC SUKS, NITRO RUES" comments don't help me learn and can go on another thread.