I really need some help. i have been out of the sport for years, but would like to come back with a 8th scale nitro buggy. all the current models are new to me, so i would like your opinion of the rtr market. i am looking to learn to drive and tune the nitro setup for quite awhile befori i think about competition. so i need new tech , engine in not important because it will just be used for clocking time. i understand all of you have your favorite brands but i am green without an opinion. the losi rtr with starter box and dsl, which i have never used seem complete for me but is a bit pricey. thank you and all help appreciated

My vote goes to Losi 2.0. But I am a Losi fan so I have never driven other models. The 2.0 is a bit pricey, but just think about it like this, you get what you pay for....

get a jammin X1 RTR buggy. they are extremely competitive and cheaper. they are extremely durable and if later on you want a newer style buggy you can spend 150 more and convert it to an X2. IMO the losi RTR is not worth the money because almost everyone that gets one has problems with the start box straight out of the box and also with the losi they have to replace both servos with 90+ dollor servos because they seem to burn out easier with losi. with the jammin you will just need a decent steering servo. but the losi does come with a DSM radio verses an FM with the jammin. i do think the losi handles better but still if your going the RTR route then IMO the losi RTR isnt worth the money. but if you go with KIT its prob worth looking at. im not a fan of losi but they do work great on the track, they just dont suit my driving style.

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I would highly suggest not getting an RTR. RTR's will cost more in the long run. That said... the only RTR worth getting IMO, is the Losi 2.0. It comes with the 2.4 radio (a must have) and a bump box. The only thing I would do to that Losi is buy a good steering servo and put the steering servo it comes with as the throttle servo.

hmmm? how so exactly? I've had some extremely good and reliable RTR radios (HPI's) and a royal craptastic one (Traxxas TQ3).
For if 2.4ghz is your thing you can get a Eurgle 3 channel for around $50(I got one good radio). BTW 2.4ghz is not a must have the buggy would function fine with a AM radio, only thing you have to worry about is conflicting signals.
And in the case of the Jammin X1x RTR it comes with a F.28 which is one of the most well liked engine's available in a RTR and should last over 8 gallons if taken care of.

I disagree with Breezerboat, RTR's are by far the best value for money on the market and to me RTR's are the best way to goif your not bothered about building your own kit! The Losi 2.0 is a very cool car but the initial cost can be quite hefty and the hobao/ofna hyper 9 is pretty awesome as well! You will probably want to run 2.4 Ghz radio gear and a good quality steering servo such as the HPI sfl-10 hi torque servo. Hitec is also a pretty awesome brand but it all comes down to what you personally think is best! Do your research as this is the opinion of the people only on this site.

The Losi is real nice but like you said it is a bit pricey. Take a look at the Caster ZX1.5 RTR. It was recently released with alot of upgrades and already comes with Big Bore shocks, soft compound tires, and really thick shock towers 4mm compared to others and all CNC aluminum. I just got one after racing the Caster ZX1.5R PRO Kit for awhile now and I am seeing what lasts on it. So far with 3 full races and practicing I am still on the original servos and nothing broken yet except for replacing a clutch bell. It is a nice buggy.

check out the KYOSHO MP7.5 MK3 as a first or ultimate race/beginners buggy. Its been a world champion for almost 20 years so it cannt be bad, can it. It also comes with a rather good engine, Kyosho GX.21 (3.5cc), or if you go for the U.S sport which comes with the GXR.28(4.8cc) engine. I think the GX.21 is just a tad faster than the GXR .28 although the GXR will have a little bit more pull but will probably drink more fuel. Good luck with whatever you get, specially if its a Kyosho MP.