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Old 10-10-2006 | 05:02 PM
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For those of you that have been on here for a while know that I will do all that I can to help someone that is having trouble or just needs a little tip. They also know that I do not make attacks on there boat. On the other hand if you push me into a conner, then I will say a little some'um some'um.
I have been seeing post that look to have missing information, so if you are interested in knowing the rest of the story, just ask.
So not to high jack anothers post, this was asked:
Ive seen all of the mods that were done to this boat on another site. It has been re-done from the bottom to the top. parts in the kit did not fit correctly and had to be modified. the water rudder and puller setup were only a few of the mods that were done. from what i understand the bottom of the hull was also changed. may be wrong on that one but i seem to remember someone saying it was flat bottom now. dont the gators have a tunnel hull of sorts, not real sure on that one either. Any who Andy did a real nice job with this boat and i think 40 mph is just the begining. , every boat handles differently even if i built the same boat over and over again i cant gurantee that they would all perform the same. I think Its a good design, obviously it works. If not why would there be so many of them. How about a Cajun Gator that shows some out of the box thinking. Something new something completely different, i know you have been using this design for sometime now, like i said obviously it works. What about a Gator 3 pointer, or a Step hull have you given thought to building something of a different style ? Or is that something you have already done, id love to see the vids if you have a 3 pointer or a Step hiding in your garage, tryin to keep it on the Hush Hush or something like that, lol. Id like to see what you came up with, or could come up , could prove to be interesting !!! Im hooked on the 3 pointers myself, Watcha Got ? Oh i didnt mean to offend or anything like that im just a lil to enthusiastic for some people some times, lol.
1. This was the very first kit that was on the market, and it was known that they may be some triming to be done. The final result was the boat was built first class, by a person that knows how to build things, other wise I would not have sent it to him.
2. The boat always was a flat bottom. I do offer several different styles of airboats, flat bottoms, semi-tunnels and outriggers.
3. Out of the box thinking. Why reinvent the wheel? one that is somewhat different is the semi-tunnel in which works great. It is a flat bottom boat that has a shalow tunnel made in to the bottom. This allows air to be realeased at higher speeds, helping to prevent blow overs.
4. Gator 3-pointer or step hull, the 3 pointer has already been done a while back, and when the time is right I'll do more with it. The step hull I will not do, that has been done by some one else and I do not copy others work and call it my own.
5. Watcha Got on 3 pointers better known as the outrigger? see pic below.

6. Did not mean to offend. Don't worry about that, it takes a lot to offend me, and I get the feeling that your not getting all of the story.
Old 10-11-2006 | 07:13 AM
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If i have givin any information that is in-correct i apologize. Im pretty good about checking things out before i state my opinion, ok most of the time i am. Like i said" your design works " I dont see why you dont make a Step hull, i know you say someone else has done it and you dont want to re-do something that someone else has done and call it your own, i understand that. Look at it this way, you say " why re invent the wheel " lol If we didnt re-invent the wheel we would all have the same wheels, so to speak. everything on the planet has been re-invented. look at the paper clip, it started out just a bent piece of metal used to hold papers together. Now you can find 50 different kinds of paper clips on the market, pink, green, blue, Triangle shapes square, round. Its the same way with these boats, We do copy other designs, all of us are guilty. Even with the Gator boats, can you honestly say that you just came up with the design by yourself, or did you look at other boats, for ideas, or maybe someone else put some input into the design. Ive built numerous boats also, and i can honestly say that i had help. I may not have had someone sitting beside me telling how to build it. I used other ideas, and setups from other boats that i had seen to help me with my builds. Im sure your guilty of this also, We all are.
So if you think about it we all use what we have learned from others builds to improve our own, and then call them our own. Re-designing the wheel so to speak. In my opinion and like i said this is my opinion. If you have seen 1 Cajun Gator you have pretty much seen them all. i noticed it with my own builds also, every Flatbottom i have built may be a different size smaller or bigger than the others, but they all looks the same, same shape, same rake, same engine stand, same rudder system you get the idea.
When i Asked What you got? I wasnt asking what you have in your inventory, im askin about your Talent, your skill level. What ya got? is more of a challenge, Show me something that is off the wall, show me something that is so different i wont recognize it as a Gator. I challenge myself with the same question everyday, and i try to show it in my builds. The Gator is a good design, but is it all you have in your arsenal ? Even lookin at some of the races that you have and the meets, 90 percent of the boats are Gators. they are fast and they run good, but whats goin to trigger a new idea for you? What about a V hull, or a i dont know a Hover gator, lol. Like i said in my other post, Show me something that is goin to make my Jaw hit the floor. I dont dought your talent, if you didnt have talent for building these boats their wouldnt be so many of them out there. The Rigger is nice i like it, where is the video of it runnin ? It seems that your so caught up in the original design it is holding you back from new designs. Not to start anything , but look at Chris's boats, no 2 are the same. every design he has is new, and on the edge. I would like to see something new and on the edge from the Gator line. A step hull would be awesome, a V-hull would be also. Ummm..... i kinda lost my train of thought, lol. I think my brain has gas, lol. ill end this before i completly forget what i was trying to say.

Ps. Get you Buttocks in your workshop and show me something amazing ya old Fart.
Old 10-11-2006 | 07:48 AM
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Not so much caught up in the origianal design, just have so many to build, that it does not leave much time for playing around. There is a lot that goes into designing a hull, a lot of testing and a lot of having a good time. Again the step hull I'm not going to build, too out dated and does not show enough to be worth the extra effort. The "V" hull works great on the water props, and is not designed for the slides in the turns we like to see. The Gators are like they are because they work and have the looks of the original airboats, they handle racing great. They are the first to do alot of things that were not done before(at least not seen in person or internet or heard of some one doing it). Yes I do take advice from others, and if it is something that I have not tried before I will try it. Sometimes the advice works sometimes it don't. And it does not matter if it comes from a new guy or the old farts thats been doing this for ever. The gators as you see them, are not completly the same as they were a year or 2 back, there is always improvement to them. Good advice for ya, before trying a thousand different hull designs, get that first one to run right first. Makes it a lot easer to learn just what will work and what will not.
The first Gators ran in the 30mph range and this is a good speed for racing your buddys, I have hulls that have ran a few mph faster than this, not going to post the speeds, until we have our rules and regulations in place on how they will be recorded. Will say that it will not be by GPS or rador gun.
Got work to do will answer more later
Old 10-11-2006 | 08:02 AM
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SALEEN, DID YOU READ WHAT HE JUST SAID !!!!!! Before building 1000 different hulls, build one that works, and go from there, lol.


i will say that i dont agree with you on the Step hull being out dated. Ive seen a few of them run , in vids, 1 in person, and i dont see how something so fast could be out dated, i just build my first a few weeks back, lol. In my opinion its goin to be a step hull that holds the Speed record, it maybe a 3 pointer, it may be a flat bottom with a step added, what ever it is, i feel its goin to have a step. The speed you can get from having the step is out of this world. the V hulls on airboats do handle a lil different then what we would expect an airboat to. But Ive seen a couple of V hull airboats that would make Sweet oval racers. Where does it say in the rule books that they have to perform like airboats, lol. I agree, go with what works, but how do we know what works with out trying new things, lol.
Old 10-11-2006 | 03:27 PM
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yes, i heard.

didnt bother to read, all of the posts here are atleast 200 words (my eyes hurt[sm=spinnyeyes.gif])

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