your not going to lose money
the price of those crappy radios dont inflate the cost of the rtr that much. they dont cost ofna that much.

i kow you wont get full price for it but if you look at the current auctions on ebay for the "crappy" rtr radio for the mbx pro, the guy is getting almost $70 for that crappy radio and crappy servos.
just minus what you do get for it from the price of the rtr and use that omney towards after market stuff.
you prolly already have a radio so use what you get for the rtr radio and deduct it from the cost of the buggy

dont tell me you cant just ressell the crappt rtr stuff....proof is right there....sure you wont get full retail for it, but they dont add full retail to the price of buggy.

this debate will go on forever. unless they start making kits this is your only option.

No, actually another option is not to buy any kits at all.

I just boguth my first nitro rc last week and yes it was a T-maxx. I dont have anything against buggies. They look faster and better handling than my T-maxx. I just dont like the body style of a buggy. I know you can change that but for new guys like me who dont want to buy a body right off a truck can make for sense.

I think if I continue to love the hobby as much as I do so far I will eventually purchase an ofna buggy. It, to me, stradles the boundries of street and MT. I dont even slightly want a street car. But the idea of having a car that I could possibly set up to be good on and off road sounds cool.

Just a new guys personal opinion.

I thought you liked the kits? Sounds like your saying the only option is to get out of rc? I'll tell ya what though....from some of the discussions that you get into I would have to say you are the most stubborn and persistent individual I've ever met! and because of that I feel pretty sure that I'll be seeing alot more rolling chassi kits soon. Keep at the manufacturers and I'll be suprised if they don't give you what you want.l

Thanks, I think. When I say kits, I mean RTR kits.

yea yea i meant that in a good way. sorry if it came out wrong.....or read it wrong.....or...uh....somethin like that...yea i'm going to bed...its late.