Community
Search
Notices
RC Car General Discussions This forum is for all general discussions related to radio control cars. Check forums below for more specific categories if applicable.

Preload?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-03-2009 | 05:35 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default Preload?

I damamaged an 08041 shock. (HSP) and bought a replacement. When I looked at it, I could use finger pressure to undo a knurled section from a hex section.

I was a bit surprised and looked the car. It was the same.

I have heard mention of changing the viscosity of the oil in shocks to change their behaviour, and assume this was what that was for. But then I see that the whole shank of 08041 is threaded and that this is probably a preload setting..

So.

Can I change the oil in these shocks?

What happens if I just keep winding?

Why do HSP send me (half the number I need of ) preload shims, if I have this capability? Sorry sarky remark.

Nick
Old 04-03-2009 | 06:46 AM
  #2  
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 16,490
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: howard beach, NY
Default RE: Preload?

You can change the oil, no problem, just drain the old and put in new. You dont want the spring too tight that it bounces, you want it set so that it will absorb the bumps and keep it up, not sagging.
Old 04-03-2009 | 10:35 AM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

But how do I change the oil?
And is then screw thew a preload.?
Old 04-03-2009 | 12:31 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Oshawa, ON, CANADA
Default RE: Preload?

To change the oil you will need to take the shock off of the car.

-remove spring
-remove the top cap of the strut (hex shaped)
-dump out the oil
-refill with different oil, work strut rod up and down (not all the way to the top though) to remove air
-add more oil if necessary
-reassemble
-repeat for other strut
Old 04-03-2009 | 07:35 PM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

OK. Thanks for that. But there is nothing else to grip when I try to remove the hex. I assumed it was the knurled ring, but that is loose and has nothing to do with it.

Nick
Old 04-03-2009 | 07:45 PM
  #6  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

Talking of removing the shocks, how do I get the top end of the shock off/on the ball joint it is on? The bottom seems to be a tiny allen key, but the top...is a press-fit?

Thanks again for all the advice.

Nick
Old 04-03-2009 | 09:18 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,141
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: lewis, KS
Default RE: Preload?

what rc do you have???...
Old 04-03-2009 | 11:15 PM
  #8  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

HSP Brontosaurus truck. AFAICS there is no Hinomoto eqiv but they share parts, The shocks are #08041 aluminium capped and barreled.


Pictures are shock, top and bottom connectionds

Nick
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ig11638.jpg
Views:	29
Size:	39.1 KB
ID:	1172152   Click image for larger version

Name:	Zu64273.jpg
Views:	33
Size:	39.4 KB
ID:	1172153   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sx62859.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	40.0 KB
ID:	1172154  
Old 04-04-2009 | 08:46 AM
  #9  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

its OK. i had a damaged shock n i simply pushed it off. s i 'sumed vat i could push it on agen. it werked. orl good.

nick
Old 04-04-2009 | 10:32 AM
  #10  
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 16,490
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: howard beach, NY
Default RE: Preload?

we have the same truck, its the electric 1/10 truck, EMXT-1

same truck
Old 04-04-2009 | 09:26 PM
  #11  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

OK. Found it.

Can you do a reset on that vehicle's ESC? I have had trouble with mine from the get-go. Reverse seems unreliable. I know about the braking and the need for a pause. But I keep having to use the trim to get the truck to work properly, then it suddenly wants to have the trim re-set again, or it starts going without my telling it.

Not having much luck with this truck!

Nick
Old 04-04-2009 | 09:30 PM
  #12  
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 16,490
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: howard beach, NY
Default RE: Preload?

sounds like an esc problem.. Depending on the esc you have, there should be a reset button. It may just need to be reset.

If there is a button, Press it for 5 seconds, give it throttle for 2 seconds, brake for 2 seconds, leave it in neurtral for 2 seconds and let off the reset button. See if this helps. If not then the esc is on its way out and wandering.
Old 04-04-2009 | 10:05 PM
  #13  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

...no button [>:]

There is a spare set of contacts.....

Nick
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	By76614.jpg
Views:	33
Size:	339.9 KB
ID:	1172853  
Old 04-05-2009 | 08:02 AM
  #14  
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 16,490
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: howard beach, NY
Default RE: Preload?

oh, thats a novatech brushless esc, I dont think those can be programmed, do a search on novatech esc
Old 04-05-2009 | 05:08 PM
  #15  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

I have tried a search on just about every combination of the two words, along with others. I can _buy_ them, but not find any info.[&o]

Any how, thanks for trying to help. It's still under warranty. I may have to try to get it replaced

Nick.
Old 04-05-2009 | 05:51 PM
  #16  
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 16,490
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: howard beach, NY
Default RE: Preload?

here you go, its not programable:


http://www.eflypower.com/download/B4715-CAR-BEC.pdf
Old 04-05-2009 | 06:02 PM
  #17  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

I was just going to say that I had found a PDF and could not get it to download. IT was about another version, however. So thanks.

Nick
Old 04-05-2009 | 06:08 PM
  #18  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

Yeah. That _was_ the one I had found. A $70 esc that can be damaged by reverse battery polarity!

Still I will try the revers throttle idea, and see what happens.

One question: Do you know what extra set of contacts is for? Top left hand on my picture.

Nick
Old 04-05-2009 | 06:51 PM
  #19  
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 16,490
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: howard beach, NY
Default RE: Preload?

its for the cooling fan
Old 04-05-2009 | 06:58 PM
  #20  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

D'OH!.... thanks []

Nick
Old 04-07-2009 | 03:23 AM
  #21  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: perth, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: Preload?

Reversing the polarity on the motor leads and the throttle control seems to have helped.

I still like the idea of a programmable ESC though. Looking at a couple of possibilities.

Nick
Old 04-07-2009 | 06:35 AM
  #22  
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 16,490
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: howard beach, NY
Default RE: Preload?

it is nice to be able to control your esc.

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.