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Old 06-17-2010 | 10:31 PM
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You're absolutely right, what tools. For that matter, we should stop talking about anything from now on, since everything has already been discussed at some point or another.
exactly! lol
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Will a JR servo work with a Spektrum receiver?</p>
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Will a JR servo work with a Spektrum receiver?</p>

Well since this thread is so heavly involved in discussing servos and their compatibility,

Yes it will
Old 06-17-2010 | 10:40 PM
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Well since this thread is so heavly involved in discussing servos and their compatibility,

Yes it will
Thanks!
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Nitro vs. Electric. Tamiya vs. Traxxas. Brushed vs. Brushless. On-Road vs. Off-Road. Kit vs. RTR. Stampede vs. Rustler vs. Bandit. Slash vs. Anything. AMA vs. Everything. [&:]

These are just a few of the things that I've seen in almost 3 years in RC. Seems to be just the way things are. I think it's silly, there are so many ways to get into this hobby and so many ways to enjoy it, that asking for someone else's opinion on what you should do just seems stupid. But that's just my opinion too, and the volumes of people asking and answering these questions speak otherwise.
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Oh I got another question....can you run a Vess 22B on a DA50?
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Guess no one knows the answer...
Old 06-17-2010 | 11:24 PM
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Drink rant relax. Dont go all diva and start abusing folk
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im an OG, i was around before forums. before RTR's. we had the same amount of stuff to know and worry about.
That's not really true. If you're talking about 10-15 years ago, there was a lot less to know and worry about. There were fewer companies making fewer models. There were a lot fewer upgrade parts as well. There was only one battery chemistry (NiCad) until the late 90s, and the switch from NiCad to NiMH was pretty much plug-and-play compared to the switch from NiMH to LiPo. There were no spread-spectrum transmitters, brushless motors, or complicated ESCs that required programming. Availability was also a lot lower, pre-internet. Back then, your local hobby shop probably stocked a dozen or so models, and for your first car you probably just picked what you could afford from their limited selection. Having easy access to hundreds of models online is convenient, but it leaves a new user spoiled for choice. All the advances in technology and abundance of manufacturers gives you more choices, provides much higher performance, and drives down prices through competition. But it also makes things significantly more complicated for a new user, and those new users are going to ask questions. You have to take the bad with the good.

I'm sure you learned a lot by staring at broken cars for hours, trying to figure out how to fix them before online resources were available. There's a lot to be said for doing it the hard way. But let me ask you this - If you had a community of several hundred experienced users to ask for help when you were starting out, would you have asked, or would you have just spent several hours being frustrated instead of actually running your car? Utilizing all the resources at your disposal isn't lazy, it's smart.

If simply seeing questions being posted bothers you so much (after all, nobody is making you answer them), then perhaps you should voice your support for [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9808564/tm.htm]my suggestion[/link] to add a beginners forum to the car/truck section. Then you could skip that forum entirely and you wouldn't be annoyed by the lazy newbies.
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or after several hours of being beyond stumped we took our problems to the hobby shop or race track to ask the guy's who actually knew what they were doing behind the counter for help.
problem is alot of them don't know crap anymore.
When I 1st got my nitro I did just like you said and went to the hobby shop, and was given some pretty bad advice. Main thing I was told a nitro motor should hit around 350F... good advice to royally screw up an engine...

Found another hobby shop (one I goto now) where they do have knowledgeable staff who own a wide variety of brands and vehicles, they got the place broken up into departments (planes&helicopter, ground based etc), and the staff have to actually try each product they get in stock out 1st hand(from what their one supervisor told me).
The 1st place I went to had around 90% planes and 2 ground based RC's seriously they had a old dust covered pede on the shelf and a HPI Evo 3 or something. The guy never even heard of the MT or MT2, and I think he was the owner... Last time I went for an odd sized pinion they reduced their onroad parts bin to a shoebox...
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Wait what? 350??? I've never even touched a nitro and I know that isn't right. I can't imagine an electric hitting that and what it would do to the vehicle, don't want to imagine nitro either.

I must say that it was nice being able to refer to a forum like this for answers. I don't think I posted much, if at all, during my first month here. I did use the search function a lot though. I decided that it wasn't such a bad idea to get into the hobby th way I did, using a 25+ year old Tamiya re-released design, NiCd chemistry, AM, and a timed charger. I started out the same way as a lot of other people, only in 2007 instead of 1982.

Had I not had forums to read, I might very well have started out a different way. Better? Worse? hard to say... But it was really nice to refer to what other people thought and then make my own decision.
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problem is alot of them don't know crap anymore.
When I 1st got my nitro I did just like you said and went to the hobby shop, and was given some pretty bad advice. Main thing I was told a nitro motor should hit around 350F... good advice to royally screw up an engine...
that is really good advise on their part. they wanted you to run at 350 so the engine would need replaced and they get more money.
Old 06-18-2010 | 09:16 AM
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problem is alot of them don't know crap anymore.
When I 1st got my nitro I did just like you said and went to the hobby shop, and was given some pretty bad advice. Main thing I was told a nitro motor should hit around 350F... good advice to royally screw up an engine...
that is really good advise on their part. they wanted you to run at 350 so the engine would need replaced and they get more money.
not really they didn't carry any on-road engines so they wouldn't get the cash anyways :P
they deal with almost strictly planes

it was a used RC and the engine turns out pinch was shot anyways (it never even got to 200F without dying). But yea I knew the guy was full of it cause I did a bit of research on nitro and read the proper temps here b4 hand. 1st thing I ever asked was why does the engine keep cutting out
Old 06-18-2010 | 01:10 PM
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There were no spread-spectrum transmitters, brushless motors, or complicated ESCs that required programming.
actually there were. they just cost a lot more and were a little more complicated, that's why they weren'twidelyused. the technology has recently come far enough that it can be produced at a cost the masses can afford and its become user friendly enough that any idiot can use it.


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Availability was also a lot lower, pre-internet. Back then, your local hobby shop probably stocked a dozen or so models, and for your first car you probably just picked what you could afford from their limited selection
<div style="border-bottom: medium none; text-align: left; border-left: medium none; background-color: transparent; color: #000000; overflow: hidden; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; text-decoration: none">actually i researched it by looking through magazines. found what was in my price range and could handle the kind of driving i was going to be doing,then went to the hobby shop and bought the one they had in stockthat was wellsupported. and im sure a lot of the guys back then did the same. that really hasn't changed much over the years.


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I'm sure you learned a lot by staring at broken cars for hours, trying to figure out how to fix them before online resources were available. There's a lot to be said for doing it the hard way. But let me ask you this - If you had a community of several hundred experienced users to ask for help when you were starting out, would you have asked, or would you have just spent several hours being frustrated instead of actually running your car? Utilizing all the resources at your disposal isn't lazy, it's smart.
this is where your going to think im weird.<div style="border-bottom: medium none; text-align: left; border-left: medium none; background-color: transparent; color: #000000; overflow: hidden; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; text-decoration: none">i learned more troubleshooting and tinkering with a broken car than i could have ever learned on a forum. if i had a forum at my disposal back then would i have used it?yeah but i probably wouldn't have been asking many questions. that's just one of my character traits, i wont ask for help, but i wont hesitate to help someone else. some of the best and most gratifying moments in my RC history have been spent at a workbench with a car that wasn'tworking properly.




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this is where your going to think im weird.<div style=''border-bottom: medium none; text-align: left; border-left: medium none; background-color: transparent; color: #000000; overflow: hidden; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; text-decoration: none''>i learned more troubleshooting and tinkering with a broken car than i could have ever learned on a forum. if i had a forum at my disposal back then would i have used it? yeah but i probably wouldn't have been asking many questions. that's just one of my character traits, i wont ask for help, but i wont hesitate to help someone else. some of the best and most gratifying moments in my RC history have been spent at a workbench with a car that wasn't working properly.
Ahh another person that likes working on them alot
Personally I have more fun making them work, modifying, and fixing em up than driving em usually why I'm not mad when something breaks
hell also reason I normally buy used seeing those usually never work as stated
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same here, i spend more time wrenching than running, and it's not because i break them. lol

remember the orginal futaba pcm radio, talk about complicated. 2.4ghz is a breeze compared to that. infact i don't find 2.4ghz complicated at all.

what about building our own battery packs, matching cells, the victor hi-iq??? talk about getting technical, today batteries make life easy.

motor lathes, motor condtioners, motor checkers...

battery dischargers, we made them ourselves out of 12v light bulbs way before you could buy them.

i think it's easier today, by far.
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When Im bored and have to watch the kids, I always have My RC's to wrench on.
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same here, i spend more time wrenching than running, and it's not because i break them. lol

remember the orginal futaba pcm radio, talk about complicated. 2.4ghz is a breeze compared to that. infact i don't find 2.4ghz complicated at all.

what about building our own battery packs, matching cells, the victor hi-iq??? talk about getting technical, today batteries make life easy.

motor lathes, motor condtioners, motor checkers...

battery dischargers, we made them ourselves out of 12v light bulbs way before you could buy them.

i think it's easier today, by far.
watch out your showing your age (and mine too since i remember some of that stuff as well)
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LOL, i don't mind the kiddies knowing i'm old. (36 is old around here )
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I just turned 36 last week, Grey hairs are sneaking up on me
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this thread stays on topic like the lounge
Old 06-18-2010 | 03:33 PM
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Haven't you heard? This is the new lounge
Old 06-18-2010 | 03:53 PM
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the lounge 4!?! i hate change! everything keeps changing every day! rant, rant, rant! there we go, back on topic
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the rant , imo is that, there is a but@ load of info out there based on the subject of ............."what to buy?, why to buy it?, what works best for me?"
and the op is mearlly suggesting that a person do a little foot work before asking the same question for the ten millionth time . imo, the op has no problem
and niether do i or most poeple , answering questions . thats kinda the reason for hanging out in here !!!! BUT........ empower yourself with the knowlage
aready available BEFORE asking the age old ......................................... well you know where i am going with this!
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Personally thing that peeves me off is when you do answer someones question and they don't even thank you
or in some cases give you an attitude because they didn't do something that is common sense, written in the damn manual, and think your making fun of them. Or they keep posting in their thread to bump it up every 3 mins cause no one replied immediately

THEN THERE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT PUNCTUATION OR CAPLOCK WAS MEANT FOR WITH A BUTTLOAD OF MISSPELLINGS AND WILL TYPE IN ONE LONG RUN ON SENTENCE THAT MAKES ALMOST NO SENSE AND YOU HAVE TO REREAD A FEW HUNDRED TIMES TO MAKE SENSE

couldn't help myself there
Failure to capitalize a new sentence, use your instead of you're, etc. If I thought you were being humorous, it wouldn't be as funny. On topic, I have read this rant or ones similar to it so many times that I'm sick of it.


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