I have been searching and searching and searching and found a few but not happy with them, Can anyone tell me please where can we get a couple of these planes.
I have looked at the Gremlin planes but the guy does not make them no more, also looked at Battle Floyd planes but is that IT??
any information where to get these planes will be greatly appreciated.
THank you

http://www.rccombat.com/sections/man...ufacturers.htm

here are a few

The Gremlin is still available from the original manufacturer:
http://www.racores.com/current_products.html#Gremlins

Also take a look at the Lanier Ripper and Slasher:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFLC2&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXFLC3&P=ML

HTH,
D

The best question to ask first is what class or rules are you flying? Once you have that answered, you can pick an airframe. I see you are in Onterio. I'm not sure what is most popular up there, it might be a mix of Scale and B class open. Open B class uses .25 size engines. Current state of the art in B class is longer wings, 64-72" long. A Floyd is seriously out classed, for example.

However, if you are flying with a bunch of guys who mostly fly SPADs, Gremlins or other planes in the 48" span range, then you'll probibly be best staying in that range as well.

Some other planes worth looking at for .25 power (B class) (in the order I think of them):

The Predator series, Predator( 48" span), Panther (50something) and Predator X (72") from www.TufFlight.com are very durable, great flying planes.

The Avenger from www.TeamSeaholm.com is one of the best planes out there. This is AJ Seaholm's design he is now kitting.

GRS models sells the Falcon, a 72" flying wing that is amazing in the air, though suffers a bit in the durability department.

Lee Liddle and (I think Roy Appleton, going from memory, might have something wrong there) are kitting Lee's Cobra. The Cobra is one of the best handling planes out there.

www.hattrickrc.com, run by Dr. Evil, has the flat bat, a very durable, and very solid performer.

I don't know if Ben Morrow is still kitting Pirana's at www.downhomerc.com or not. If so, the Prianna is a very good plane as well.

One thing about combat, the pilot matters a heck of a lot more than the plane. The Avenger and the Cobra have probibly won more contests this year in B class, but mostly because they are flown by guys like Eric Wegner, AJ, Lee, and others.

The list above is far from complete, and there are a lot of other options that are darn good planes.

The Predator is a VERY tough and good flying combat plane, it's great for club level competition.

What can I say guys, THANK YOU!!
this really helped a lot.

I am from Richmond Hill, Ontario (yes yes Canada) and I am trying to get a few of our club members into combat flying I want to get as much information and present it in the next club meeting to promote interest and hopefully it'll go from there... so again, thank you very much I will go do my homework.

Hello Test Pilot
I was at Pinnacle hobby Hwy 48 and 16 Avenue last summer and a fellow there was buying a scale combat kit , so you may want to give them a call or drop in, if scale combat is of interest to you, may have other type also???

Tom

Hi Test Pilot,

There is a Combat club out of London that flies every weekend from Toront to London. They sell several different kits as well. They also publish a weekly email newsletter with pictures. You may want to contact them an get added to their distribution list.

They will be putting on a demo at the K/W scale rally in Waterloo the second weekend in Sept. as well.

The contact person is Ted Banks and the email address is: [email protected]

Hope this helps.

Fly4Fun,

Wayne Miller

Test Pilot,

The Toronto club has a weekly combat session, on monday nights. We use a "slow combat" foam wing plane that builds very quickly.

Check us out at www.rcfctoronto.ca for maps and contact info.

-Kris

There are some available here, including Lee Liddle's Falcon 72:

http://pages.prodigy.net/gcleveland_...ls/index2.html

Test Pilot, take a look at the combat ships based on the Cramer flat bat. They're tough as a boot and can be made to perform quite well. We promise not to hold the fact that you're from Canada against you.

Is this who I think it is? So this was the humble beginning.

You got me hooked. Hopefullly soon, there will be more than just the two of us. We (I) need more practice.

Juice

you can just attach treamers to aerobatic aircraft

Hey kirk,
Is the gremlin legal in any classes of contest? And what engine size is best for it? I'm looking to get some combat started in my club and this seems like the best plane to start with.

Yes, the Gremlin is legal. It can be flown in Open B class with any engine .30 or smaller.

However, the Gremlin is a fairly small plane, and it can't turn with the top B class planes. For club stuff though, it's fine.

I just hit Yahoo Maps to see where Big Flats is. You don't look very far from Endicott, NY or Montrose, PA, both of which have held contests in the past. So you'd want planes that you could fly at one or both of those sites.

If you are just flying club combat, and aren't going going to follow RCCA rules for now, I suggest you require stock mufflers. That will keep speeds down at least a little bit. Mousse cans add a lot of power, and a light Gremlin on mousse can can be a real screamer, which isn't necessarily a good thing.

This year, we flew SSC class in Endicot, and there is a group in the Rochester area that flys SSC on a regular basis, though they don't sanction or publicise their contests. So you might want to at least take a quick look at SSC.

There's also been a lot of talk about slowing down B class by requireing stock mufflers and using a spec prop, usually something like a 10x3 or 10x4. That slows things down and reduces impact damage as well, which is often a good idea for club combat.

On the other hand, if you do want to go with RCCA rules, and you decide to sanction a contest, let me know, I'll make sure it gets at least a little publicity, and I might even show up. (which may or may not be a good thing )

Hi Test Pilot-

Let me share with you my experience with trying to start combat at my local club.

I introduced combat to my local club with a Spad Derelict with a Norvel .25 about 4 years ago. There wasn't much interest. Too fast for many of the members. After two years of being able to attract only one other pilot, I discovered the Gnat(designed by Tattoo)and SSC class combat.

That's when combat took off(pun)at my club. I can hear you experenced combat pilots chuckling right now! :-) The Gnat is not competitive against any other SSC design. But what the Gnat is, is a really easy of build(all the directions are on one page)cheap and really pretty durable plane. The .15 engines are inexpensive and the planes are slow flying.

That's what attarcted more guys to combat. Once used to combat, we moved onto different designs, like the SPAD HOR for SSC and also a HDPE fuse with a re-enforced pink foam(R-250)wing. We've also now moved to Open B with Spad Dogfighters and the HDPE/foam planes.

There's now about 10-12 guys who fly combat at the field every weekend. We are having a great time. None of us(with one exception)are into the AMA RCCA competition events. We're just club flyers. We don't keep score, we apologize to each other in case of a mid-air, and share, loan , swap parts and,help with repair with others planes.

We're in Iowa USA and we fly combat year around. We are fortunate to have a heated club house for winter flying.

So you might try starting with SSC. Also, let others fly your plane. See how they like it. Print up some Gnat or HOR plans and hand them out to others.

Good Luck Test Pilot.


Swede

Swede is spot on and our fearless leader of the combat pack here in Newton, IA.

He is being very modest in describing the difficulty he experienced in getting fellow flyers interested in combat. It took a few years and in my case, he trained me to fly so that I would be a suitable combat drone for his target practice [>:]

This is the only type of flying I know of that you can do all year round, especially considering the high winds we usually experience here in Iowa. Every single weekend is a combat weekend here. Winds up to 25-30 mph (or higher sometimes) are commonly flown by the heartier of our combat group.

We laugh at snow coming down and in fact, I recall one heavy snowstorm last winter where we chased each other around with .15 SSC's. We have the pictures to prove.

What can I say ? You have to try combat and if it hooks you, you become a life-time combat junkie.

Check out
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...7&page=1&pp=15

here is some pics of my cobra:




I got it here:

http://www.texascombat.com click on kit sales

Why is the motor mount so long? I've seen plenty of Cobras, but that's the longest mount I've seen.

read the last two pages of the http://texascombat.com forum on cobra. I built two cobras as per instructions. I had to add 8 oz of weight to the standard length nose to get it to balence. Another pilot in my club built a cobra totally independantly and had to add the same amount of weight. I removed the weight and extended the nose until it balenced. I talked to lee little about this. mine weighs the same as his(if i remove the 8 oz). he uses a heavier motor mount and a stabdard size servo for throttle. The test flight will tell me today. If it flies well I will just make a few spare tongues that can be field replaces and leave it that way.

If Lee is using a heavier servo and engine mount, and his plane weighs the same, then you have extra weight at the rear of the plane, or gear mounted farther back, and you're haveing to balance it out.

Nothing really wrong with that approach, as you know, I was just asking since it looked off.

I would consider putting a teather on that engine though, that mount looks like it's asking to be ejected in a mid-air.

i thought about all of that the all unesessary weight in the rear is removed I'll see how it flies, might do the tether thing

Looking at your top picture, I'm guessing, but I think your servos, RX and battery are mounted a bit farther aft than I've seen on some Cobras. I could be wrong though.

I had somebody else build the cobra I'll check the locationa and see if thay can be moved further forward. The rcvr and battery pack are as far forward as possible. I will check the servos.