lanier p51 SSC
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From: Manassas,
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After seeing the advertisement for this plane it looks like to be a pretty decient plane. I have the ripper from lanier and im very happy with it. So thinking this would be pretty good. Do you think it will be possible to convert this bird for scale class or is it out of question?
Granted this is a very new kit so not a whole bunch of people would know about it.
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Granted this is a very new kit so not a whole bunch of people would know about it.
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From: Laurel, MD,
I doubt you'd be able to convert it to either 2610 or 2548 scale class. I haven't seen the plane, but if it's like other SSC warbirds, you'll basically be doing a scratch build using the kit as a source of raw material. And material that's already cut to the wrong shape.
If you want a scale class plane, buy a scale class kit, or knock one out yourself, it's really not hard. Heck, check with Chris, he probibly still has some 2610 planes gathering dust.
Which class are you more interested in 2610, or 2548? We might fly some 2548 up here later in the year if there is enough interest.
If you want a scale class plane, buy a scale class kit, or knock one out yourself, it's really not hard. Heck, check with Chris, he probibly still has some 2610 planes gathering dust.
Which class are you more interested in 2610, or 2548? We might fly some 2548 up here later in the year if there is enough interest.
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Well, I do think scale combat has a much higher "cool" factor than open classes, and I personally prefer scale combat. But it is more work than the open classes.
There are 2 classes of scale combat with any kind of following. The older class (which really isn't that old), is 2610, which is the class that's in the AMA rulebook, and an offical RCCA class. Planes are 1/12th scale of any plane from a pretty wide date range, I think it's 1935-1950 or something like that. You can alter the plane up to 10% from scale. The prototype had to have fixed, forward firing guns and has to have been intended for air-to-air combat or high-speed surface attack. As a result, the planes that are the most competitive are the one's you've never heard of. A P-51 Mustang in 2610 class just can't fly as well as the best designs out there. You're looking for something that at 1/12th+10% scale has a wingspan in the 50+ inch range, and lots of wing area.
2610 planes are the fastest combat planes out there, since the engines are up to a .26, with mousse cans or ultrathrust mufflers, and no power limits. They are faster than the B class planes because they are cleaner aerodynamically. My 2610 plane hits about 90mph on a radar gun. That might not sound like much, but most B class planes are in the low 80's, and SSC planes are in the low 50's.
The new class of scale that is just taking off in some parts of the country, but hasn't been flown out here yet, is 2548. In this class, there is a list of legal airplane designs, which outlaws the real odd-balls of 2610. Planes are scaled to a 48" wingspan, and you can't vary the outline much. There is a point penalty or bonus for keeping the plane "scale" to encourage scale planes. This class also has engine limits, no tuned exhaust, RPM and prop limits to slow things down.
For a suggestion, the JK Aerotech P-47 done as a P-47N type is a great first scale combat plane. Built to the plans, it's legal in both 2610 and 2548 (the wingpsan works out to something around 46.5" I think), it's rugged, and has a lot of wingarea. It's not very fast in 2610, but it's turning ability is impressive. I flew this airplane for the first year I flew scale combat, and did well with it. It should do very well in 2548.
There are 2 classes of scale combat with any kind of following. The older class (which really isn't that old), is 2610, which is the class that's in the AMA rulebook, and an offical RCCA class. Planes are 1/12th scale of any plane from a pretty wide date range, I think it's 1935-1950 or something like that. You can alter the plane up to 10% from scale. The prototype had to have fixed, forward firing guns and has to have been intended for air-to-air combat or high-speed surface attack. As a result, the planes that are the most competitive are the one's you've never heard of. A P-51 Mustang in 2610 class just can't fly as well as the best designs out there. You're looking for something that at 1/12th+10% scale has a wingspan in the 50+ inch range, and lots of wing area.
2610 planes are the fastest combat planes out there, since the engines are up to a .26, with mousse cans or ultrathrust mufflers, and no power limits. They are faster than the B class planes because they are cleaner aerodynamically. My 2610 plane hits about 90mph on a radar gun. That might not sound like much, but most B class planes are in the low 80's, and SSC planes are in the low 50's.
The new class of scale that is just taking off in some parts of the country, but hasn't been flown out here yet, is 2548. In this class, there is a list of legal airplane designs, which outlaws the real odd-balls of 2610. Planes are scaled to a 48" wingspan, and you can't vary the outline much. There is a point penalty or bonus for keeping the plane "scale" to encourage scale planes. This class also has engine limits, no tuned exhaust, RPM and prop limits to slow things down.
For a suggestion, the JK Aerotech P-47 done as a P-47N type is a great first scale combat plane. Built to the plans, it's legal in both 2610 and 2548 (the wingpsan works out to something around 46.5" I think), it's rugged, and has a lot of wingarea. It's not very fast in 2610, but it's turning ability is impressive. I flew this airplane for the first year I flew scale combat, and did well with it. It should do very well in 2548.



