Hello to all you combat junkies, do you know where I can download some plans for building a foam flying wing combat model, combat flying is just starting to pickup over here in the UK so we r a long way behind you guys, at the moment we are using spads with engines upto 30size 2strokes so any ideas as to which model to go for please speak up,


kind regards goony

come on guys one of you must be able to help out?

goony

ever hear of a gremlin? foam wing delta with a.25 on it. they are a blast to fly but there old school.the wing span too short 48" everbody here is using much larger spans. ra cores ? makes the wings for them and there is plans out for them. I hope this helps erik58

ever hear of a gremlin? foam wing delta with a.25 on it. they are a blast to fly but there old school.the wing span too short 48" everbody here is using much larger spans. ra cores ? makes the wings for them and there is plans out for them. I hope this helps erik58

thanks for that eric, anymore out there?

goony

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http://www.spadtothebone.com/SPAD/si...icklecover.jpg

These are coroplast but no reason you couldn't do them from foam.

Maybe you are already flying these, you didn't say.


rrh

Try Texascombat.com and look under "kit sales". You may also find some usefull information at Georgiacombat.com. The photo I have attached has a "Falcon"(yellow/red), a "Rapier" (red) and a "Battle Axe" (orange). Rapier is available at http://www.MidAtlanticCombat.com. These run on OS .15 LA with MAS 8x3 prop. They are SSC (slow survivable combat) planes.

I forgot the darn picture.

SO do u not design and build your own models?

OR do you all buy the best latest fashionable designs?

goony

Well, I'm still flying my own designs but they are not competitive with some of the designs that are in production and available to the public. I am not buying some one elses design yet but I am going to have to go to a foam wing instead of coro to loose some weight and pick up th epace.

rrh

Goony, We took a design from a friend who designed it and modified and improved on a proven design. Yes, we do build our own planes. We have a friend who laser cuts the wing cores and pylon for us. Then we buy 1/4" aluminum plywood endcap that we consider the fuselage. That is where we mount the engine, servos(throttle, elevator) and the tail section to. We are as we speak taking pictures of the building process and will post them on the Georgiacombat.com website. Another very durable design that was just completed using alot of the same parts and design elements is available for review on the georgiacombat.com website is the "Georgia Gorilla". I know that you are in the UK and some of these items may be hard to come by at your local hardware store. We get most of our parts (building) from Home Depot and Lowe's. All of the electronics, engines and such we buy from towerhobbies.com. We cover our foam wings with colored packing tape.

The only reason I suggested you look at the "flying wing design" at texascombat.com is that you were initially looking for that. I will give you hint of advice if I may....those planes are from what I understand difficult to set up properly and don't withstand midair impacts very well.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help promote rc combat in your area. Maybe we can send you some stuff. At the present time we are preping up some gear because we have 3 meets in the next 4 weeks and we are repairing war wounds from the AMA Nationals.

Darin
RCCA 797

Personally, I'm now flying all my own designs. But that's because I really enjoy designing and trying to build an airframe that does what I want it to better than the next guy.

The Rapier is my SSC design, the Mongoose is my B class plane, and I fly a Blackburn Firebrand in 2610 scale.

The Rapier is a great flying plane for me, it really fits how I like to fly SSC. It may or may not be an effective plane for some other guys though. (anyone who watches me fly the Rapier will see me do some odd things with it. But at the same time I'm usually a little slower than some of the other planes up there).

The origional post asked about plans for flying wings. Which is why I didn't respond right off. I don't know of any published plans in the conventional sense. But most of the designs out there are avialable in some kind of kit or short kit, at least in the US. But you're in the UK, so that doesn't help. However, the over all design prameters aren't that hard to figure out.

It turns out that knocking together your own design isn't actually very hard. (fine tuning it takes more time, but, IMHO is mostly personal preference anyway).

Anyway, if you want a flying wing, look at the TexasCombat site mentioned above. Talk to the guys there and get a copy of the airfoil they are using. (I think the Clark-YH was used at some point, I don't know what they are using now). Get their tip and root chords and span. That's 90% of flying wing design right there.

Flying wings are harder to set up right. Or, rather, they are more "critical". You have the same issues on flying wings and conventional planes, but conventional tailed planes allow more slop with things like CG placement and so on. (which is one of many reasons why I don't fly wings. I can slap a skewer and some tape on the vertical stab of my plane and not worry that I just messed up the CG, since 1/4" either way doesn't seem to matter much. Wings are often more critical in this regard)

Do you have your own foam cutter? If you do, then get the basic wing airfoil, span, and chord info and get hacking. If you don't, then either build a foam cutter, or find someone who has one.

Design is also more fun when you work with other people. You often get ideas you might not have considered yourself to make the plane that much better.

thats great many thanks for your help and kind offers

goony

important that you guys get together and discuss what it is you'all want to do in combat. You need to come to some sort of an ageeement so that you will all be flying similar classed planes. You could go straight to the current standard SSC planes, but if you'r not planning on competing here in the states, these may not be the best for you. Do you guys just want to encourage local combat and have fun, or do you want to get ready for RCCA compettion?

For example, for starting out, I would reccomend that you start with planes that weigh a minimum of 2.75 lbs with 0.15 engines. You may want to consider going will all foam scale warbirds, or all open type design planes. You may want to standardize on an engine/prop combo, etc. You may want to standardize on all coroplast (SPAD) planes, etc.

If I was starting from scratch, and all things were equal, I would reccomend you go with a 1/12 sizish scale foam warbirds like the JK aerotech planes- these are tough little planes, although they wouldnt be competitive in todays RCCA SSC.

thanks for that flyforfun, ill tell you where we r at and perhaps you can guide me a bit in the right direction?

at the moment we r all using spad dogfighters apart from a few that have tried other designs of spads but they dont seem to fly as well! engine is upto a 30size with anyprop/fuel combo, most common prop is master airscrew 9x5.
the problem that I have with this set up is that the planes NEVER fly all that well and are sometimes difficult to luanch track badly and the combat is more cat fight than dogfight.

what im hoping to achieve is to be able to get others to change from these planes and cat fights and instead fly models that you can REALLY control and have proper dogfights!
this is going to take sometime but hopefully when they see how much better the new models are they will get the same type, so the new model needs to be tough enough to take on a pack of spads and still win?

goony