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acheron 07-07-2006 05:13 PM

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i'm new to drifting, as well as rc in general. i bought a tt-01 and put some abs tires on it. .. and i've come to realize that this is a bit trickier than it looks ;) it was, at first, like running on ice. i was mostly just spinning, not really drifting. after some practice i was getting the car to drift nicely, but keeping control of the car after comming out of a corner is still escaping me. the majority of the time it was fishtail back and forth and spin out. i've tried letting off the throttle completely, as well as tapping it. releasing the stearing knob and giving it a touch of throttle seemed to work a little better, but nothing has worked consistently so far. Obviously i need some more practice but i was wondering if anyone had suggestions or pointers to push me in the right direction. My car is all stock except for an aluminum drive shaft and the abs tires.

oh and for any other newbies out there, here's what happens when you bake your abs tires too long ;) My 2nd attempt worked much better...

ROYjovero 07-07-2006 05:14 PM

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Why did you put the ABS in the oven in the first place?

acheron 07-07-2006 05:19 PM

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the wheels were bigger than the abs. i put the tires in the oven for about 2-3 mins and they expanded just enough to slip in the rims. when they cooled, the wheels were secure in place. In my first attempt, i cooked them for about 5-8 mins and they melted all over the place.

Spartan-Drifter 07-07-2006 05:21 PM

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What Temp did you bake them at?

acheron 07-07-2006 05:25 PM

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400 degrees. i pulled them out 2 or 3 times every 60 seconds until i could push the wheels in.

Yomillio 07-07-2006 05:25 PM

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Ill I usually have to do is freeze the wheels overnight and put the tires in hot tap water then throw them together with a rubber mallet, its a pretty safe and effective way of doing it.

Spartan-Drifter 07-07-2006 05:25 PM

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ok thx ill try that

ROYjovero 07-07-2006 05:27 PM

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Damn what kind of ABS are y'all getting? Mine are usually a hair bigger than my wheels, so I have to wrap the inside of the wheel with tape to get a snug fit.

acheron 07-07-2006 05:30 PM

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I didn't want to wait ;) They turned out better than i expected actually. They're very secure, w/no gaps between the wheel and abs. now.. does anyone have any advice about how to control my car :D

Spartan-Drifter 07-07-2006 05:30 PM

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Roy where do you get you ABS from?

ROYjovero 07-07-2006 05:36 PM

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I get mine at any home improvement store, i.e. Home Depot, Ochard Supply Hardware, Lowe's, etc. Never had any fitment issues.

Now about your car control, you just need to keep practicing. There is no replacement for driving experience. And honestly, it might be an issue with your tires.

Auslide 07-07-2006 06:17 PM

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I bake my PVC before fitting them to my Rims... No mess no glue and no problems...
Fan Force oven only With a good ventilation system

slideyourride90 07-07-2006 09:03 PM

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dude its' probally an alingment problem( if the car is not going in a strait line when your not putting any steering input) or you just got to get used to the "feel" of the car, i've been into r/c touring car racing for about five years now and won sum races and the more you drive the better you'll get and the better you'll be to control the car, just get sum more driving hours under your belt and that should solve the problem

driftdriftdrift 07-07-2006 10:39 PM

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abs is like ice when its new. once you get it worn in your drifts should be alot better

.ace 07-07-2006 10:52 PM

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where did you buy your car from? and for how much? i love the body :D and also me friend has abs and all he did was drive it on the pavement and it worked fine, or weared down really fast :P

acheron 07-07-2006 11:06 PM

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yeah, the tires feel better now they;ve worn a bit. i think my biggest issue was to much throttle comming out of a turn before the car straightened out. as everyone has already said.. practice is key.

as for the alignment, i've adjusted the steering trim on the transmitter and it lines up pretty well. thanks for the heads up though. [sm=thumbup.gif]


acheron 07-07-2006 11:15 PM

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haha thanks. although I can't take credit; the kit i bought came with a finished body. it was $105 from tower hobbies: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXLKY9&P=7

Neon_guy 07-08-2006 11:56 PM

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My $.02 is it's driver error over anything. Like you said, you're new. And one thing people seem not to realize (on both 1:1 AND 1:10) is drifting isn't as easy as some of us may make it look. Before you change ANYTHING, I'd keep practicing. The reason I say that is because of my experience. I have an MR4TC Yokomo chasis and a Traxxas 4tec. BOTH COMPLETELY STOCK. Both drift great. I had to get used to the cars. I started with Yok drift rings and now I'm (mostly) using ABS and I'm still pulling off great drifts consistently. Before you adjust any of your suspension tape up your tires. Then try to really get the hang of it (you may just need more traction to build your confidence and skill). One mistake people make is throwing parts at a car when the skill isn't there. Get the skill and the parts will simply enhance it. Without the skill, you just got a fancy chasis with useless parts.

driftdriftdrift 07-09-2006 12:38 AM

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personally i enjoy tape more because you can really get some speed and slide a while. when my car was still running i could drift my whole cul-de-sac in one huge drift. looked sweet too. but yeah just stick to it. practice is better than parts

em x 6 racer 07-09-2006 01:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: Neon_guy

My $.02 is it's driver error over anything. Like you said, you're new. And one thing people seem not to realize (on both 1:1 AND 1:10) is drifting isn't as easy as some of us may make it look. Before you change ANYTHING, I'd keep practicing. The reason I say that is because of my experience. I have an MR4TC Yokomo chasis and a Traxxas 4tec. BOTH COMPLETELY STOCK. Both drift great. I had to get used to the cars. I started with Yok drift rings and now I'm (mostly) using ABS and I'm still pulling off great drifts consistently. Before you adjust any of your suspension tape up your tires. Then try to really get the hang of it (you may just need more traction to build your confidence and skill). One mistake people make is throwing parts at a car when the skill isn't there. Get the skill and the parts will simply enhance it. Without the skill, you just got a fancy chasis with useless parts.
That covers it right there. Very well put.


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