RE: whats wrong with the hpi e10?
 

any thoughts about the losi drift r rtr? im not sure that i really want to do a kit just yet.

RE: whats wrong with the hpi e10?
 

Just trying to help. :)

The age-old belt vs.shaft question.........Shafties are strong, but no stronger than anything else. They are, however, good for filthy surfaces.

Just one thing on that - Drift vids you'll see on Youtube, those guys sweep or otherwise clean the surfaces they run on, before they shoot the vid, and drifters should be running on clean surfaces, anyway, because their tires would definitely work better.

I'm personally a belt guy, because they are smoother, and I don't know who you talked to, but belts do not require a lot of adjustment. Maybe they confused belts with ball diffs, which do require periodic adjustment and maintenance. Belts do require a clean surface, to be as efficient as possible, and are smoother at putting power to the ground.

As far as which is "better," I don't think anyone can convince anyone else that one is better than the other, so make a choice, and see what you think. :)

EDIT: On your last Q, the Ofna's are rollers. You won't be putting anything together, except installing the electronics, which you should learn, anyway. I say give them a shot. They are very good, inexpensive chassis that will serve you for a long time (until, that is, you want to progress to something more expensive). Oh, and the Losi drifter is discontinued. If you find one, you will have to get spare or replacement parts from the Losi Parts House, only. My JRXS-R is like that.

RE: whats wrong with the hpi e10?
 

I'm good on putting these bad boys together. i use to have a hotbodies lighting that was discontinued and almost impossible to get parts so i impervised. i honestly just wanted to bring it home, get it out of the box and go. i hate to find out about the losi, i really liked it. ill look into the ofna again. you think the drift one is better as it is set up for drift and i dont need to change anything to make it a drift.</p>

RE: whats wrong with the hpi e10?
 

Either JL10 will require you to lock the rear diff, in any case. This is not hard, but will require disassembly of the rear end, but it doesn't take long.

Most RTR's, you will have to do that. Even the ones that say "RTR" still require it (HPI's Sprint 2 is an example), so forget the idea of de-boxing and going.
If you plan to drift, get used to modding - it is the essence of drift - customization.

Also, the JL10's don't come with a manual, just an exploded view sheet and parts list. This is not a problem if you are mechanically inclined. Since they are rollers, they don't come with a body, either, so you are free to choose the body you want.

As far as which I would choose, I have had both, and don't have a preference, as both are great, inexpensive chassis. They both have their own good points, but I wouldn't say one is better than the other.

I would break it down like this:

The TC has good fit and finish, and the gear drive is pretty quiet (for a shaft drive). The drift is built like a tank, and is mid-motor design, which seems to be the "hot set up", but I find rear motor designs just as good, if not better, for my style of drifting. The choice is still up to you.

I still say they are a much better choice than an RTR - ANYRTR.

RE: whats wrong with the hpi e10?
 

is this tx any good? i was looking at the dx3s and it seems good but kinda expensive. this one is cheaper but any good - http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=SPM3300

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That's a great TX. I swear by Spektrum, myself, so maybe I'm not the one to ask, but their TX's have served me VERY well for years (I have the first edition run of the DX3R, and though the grip is on the smallish side, it has all the adjustments any racer would want).The DX3Chas the click roller, which makes accessing the menu and adjusting very fast, simple and easy. That grip is the new style, too, which is very comfortable (compared to the DX3R). If you have big hands, Spektrum has the big grip as an option.

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so dxc3 is a good tx? now the reciever for that one does it have the same feature that if the two disconnect the rx will go into a neutral poshion? what is a good motor and esc? should i go ahead and get a brushless and run lipo batteries?

RE: whats wrong with the hpi e10?
 

Yes, it has a fail safe. All Spektrum do.

BLis up to you. Some run them, some don't. It is more about the budget you have. BL systems will be more expensive, and much more powerful, but a caveat - you do not need gobs of power for drift. In fact, lots of power can actually keep you from drifting properly. A BL system around 4000Kv or less is the limit I would suggest.

LiPos, again, are up to you. I would suggest hardcase ones, too. On the battery charger - get the best you can afford. Those will have some adjustment for charge power (amps) and will be safer. Be sure to get LiPos that are compatible with the system you wil be purchasing. If it is brushed, make sure it has a LiPo cutoff, so you don't ruin your new LiPos, or stick with NiMh batteries.
Many ESC's will not be 3S compatible. 2S is all that is needed for drift, anyway.

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Will it be better to have an ESC that has the Brake feature for drifting?

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It depends on a few things.

First, is how much you have available to spend, second, some BL systems will have the drag brake feature, but not brushed (this is slowly changing, however). Third, is which system to get.

Ican make only one recommendation that will be inexpensive, but hard to find, exactly because of it's price point, which is the Castle Sidewinder SCT. The motor is a low enough Kv rating to make it a good candidate, and the ESC has the drag brake feature (you will also need the Castle link to adjust it), which Ido use for drift.

Yes, the drag brake does help, when initiating a drift. It engages at neutral, so you need not use brakes except when coming to a full stop. You need not use much - I set mine at around 30 - 40%. That gives me just enough brake to start the drift, then I power over.

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Thanks man :D