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drift2win 12-02-2007 09:15 PM

hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
is this car any good for drifting???
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXTCR5&P=ML
is it worth the money??has anyone ever used one before?
thanks,
tyler

magnat 12-03-2007 02:13 AM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
I have one and I hate it..

drift2win 12-03-2007 06:35 AM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
why?whats so bad about it?? more info why you dont like it please

phantomworks 12-03-2007 02:31 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
Go to www.hpiracing.com and check out the video they have of the car drifting. looks like it drifts just fine to me.

HpiDrifter420 12-03-2007 02:52 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
the quality isnt there for this car. if you want to put more power to it you kant b/c youll just break the driveline. theres not alloy shaft to withstand the power increase. basicly its to new for hop ups

magnat 12-03-2007 06:17 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
Ok lets run you through the problems I have had

The Driveline is complete Crap..
You put any more then 19.000rpm through it and it will slap against the Chassis.

It also has intermittent AWD.. meaning sometimes the front wheels stop communicating with the rest of the driveline.
The Diff and the Bevel gears don't even connect with each other when you have to do a rebuild because the Collar Bearing on the Bevel gear pops out under any load.. leaving you once again with intermittent AWD..

The motor mount is very poor in design.... Its a Plastic Clamp that holds the motor to the spur gear.. It never allows perfect mesh so you always have a car that sounds more like a coffee grinder then an RC Car... If the Motor you have is High torque, then it will flex the motor mount and cause it to strip the Spur and Pinion.. and thats only if the Shaft itself doesnt Disintegrate first...

Unless HPI Actually Start listening to E10 owners and Actually start releasing properly designed hop ups.. this car is destined to be left on the shelf...

Buy a TT-01, It has all alloy upgrades and is better Value for money

HpiDrifter420 12-03-2007 06:21 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
magnat has had the most problems with this car that we know of on these forums. i didnt listen to him and bought a e10 and now mines just sitting as well. great idea but the quality isnt there. they should of put more time into this car and it would of blown a tt01 away. but they didnt. next time im just getting a yokomo

Ellimist 01-07-2008 08:08 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
you guys are forgetting the price tag on the e10. It is well worth the price, since you can replace the drive shaft and the bushings easily. The best thing to do is buy the prebuilt version and purchase your own electronics because you will want to upgrade very soon anyway. While there are not many hop-ups that are specified for the e10, I have found that most similar HPI and team associated parts do the job well. I have associated shocks and driveshaft and a bearing set from HPI. the bearings are very important, because having the two bushings sitting on the driveshaft didn't cut it. mine wore through the rear bushing in a week. But since the e10 is obviously not for racing, it is definitely a good buy if you're into drifting. it is very easy to switch it over to touring mode, just be careful not to let the pins that hold the a-arms fall out when you switch the differential. and a set of 4 mounted touring tires will only set you back $30. again, it is well worth the price, especially for drifting.

plpat11lp 01-07-2008 08:55 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
just get a tt01r kit for $130 and use ur own electronics...

DANDthekid 01-07-2008 08:59 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
I have a Sprint 2 and it isn't that hard to mod a HPI imo it doesn't have to be HPI brand to put it in your HPI. Just use the manual and see things like pinion gear and spur gear tooth and pitch size.

But for now there not going to have graphite parts available yet!

But unless you're getting the car this second I suggest you wait a little, and see other options.
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Other Options

Tamiya TT-01(d)

http://www.hobbyhome.ca/Tamiya/RC_Ca...TT01/58388.jpg


# Ready-to-Run R/C model of the Mazda RX-7 Drift Spec.
• 4WD shaft driven bathtub TT-01 chassis with coil spring damped, 4-wheel independent double wishbone suspension and sealed front and rear differential gearbox.
• Stylish aerodynamic shape of the RX-7 faithfully reproduced in durable polycarbonate and comes beautifully pre-painted.
• Drift-spec modifications include special suspension tuning, full ball bearings, sport-tuned motor, aluminum heat sink, CVA mini shock dampers and short springs.
• Silver, narrow mesh wheels with 26mm width are mounted with Drift Tire Type D, which feature a resin and rubber compound specially designed for long-lasting drift action.
• Includes ESC (TEU-101 BK), type 540 motor, and Expec R/C System.
• Includes LEDs for head and tail lights that turn on automatically when the car is switched on. Add the TLU-02 Light Control Unit (ITEM 53937) for greater control of light operations.
• Wide variety of tune-up parts are separately available to customize your machine.
-Tamiya
This car is very common, and is a great drift car. You can get about any mods for this car.
Their sturdy, easy to understand, and great cars for all levels.
With its drift specs you wont need to do some modding to start drifting



Team Associated TC4

http://www.poncinihobbies.com/v/vspf...SC30111-2T.jpg


Team Associated’s revolutionary TC3 set the benchmark for touring car performance and quickly became the choice of winning racers all over the world. The TC3's race-proven shaft-drive design captured many national and international championships in the past few years, and has spawned numerous imitations. Now the Team is proud to introduce the next generation RC10TC4 Touring Car… the refinement of the proven TC3 racing platform, optimized with more precise tuning features, better balance, and greater durability. The TC4's chassis has been designed with the batteries moved closer to the centerline of the car… a favorite TC3 modification of many Factory Team drivers.

This "mass centralization" allows quicker directional transitions, and the narrower chassis provides more side-to-side roll clearance. The inline motor mounting system features an all-new machined aluminum motor mount which not only provides greater motor stability, but also functions as an integral heat sink to draw heat away from today’s hotter modified motors. An optional "Factory Team" TC4 chassis forced air duct system provides even greater airflow to the motor.

Of course, the TC4 is supported by a full line of Factory Team performance parts, including blue titanium turnbuckles, optional radial heatsinks, a forced air-duct system, and the entire range of graphite chassis components.

-Team Associated
This car is great! It is almost drift ready, it's reliable, this car just needs some good drift tyres, and you'll be ready to go sideways.
Talk about the parts! ([link=http://www.teamassociated.com/ae/tc4/tc4_parts.htm]http://www.teamassociated.com/ae/tc4/tc4_parts.htm[/link])

Yokomo

http://www.rctechonline.com/products...ages/drift.jpg


From the land that invented drifting comes the first 1:10 RC kit to capture the style, passion and excitement of the hottest new motorsport rage. Our new Yokomo Drift Package series captures the look and performance of full-size drift racers in perfect detail. With aggressive body cladding plus extras like aero mirrors, windshield wipers, wings, exhaust pipes, working lights and more. Look under the hood and you'll find the newest CM version of our race-proven MR-4TC SD chassis. Light and yet very strong, the molded CM chassis is easy to build and boasts shaft-driven full time 4WD, fully adjustable double wishbone suspension, LSD ball differentials and adjustable coil-over shocks. Last, but not least, are a set of unique Super Drift tires with special drift rings to produce mind boggling drift action. What's more, you can convert the CM to competition specs by simply mounting racing wheels and tires. Get in on all the drifting action with the world leader in RC quality, performance, and innovation.

-Yokomo USA
These cars are pure drifters!

They come with all of the goodies, but you need:

- 2 channel radio system (transmiiter, receiver, electronic speed controller, servo)*
- SUB-C type 7.2V battery pack (compatible with 6 cell stick or side-by-side packs)*
- Battery charger*
- Motor (Yokomo Drift-Spec 35T or 21T recommended.)*
- Polycarbonate paint (Pactra or Tamiya brand paints recommended)*
- Hobby knife (used to cut out decals)
And I'm sure you can find parts for them.


For more information on drifting please visit the [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6327870/anchors_6327870/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#6327870]The Beginners Guide to Drifting![/link]








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magnat 01-08-2008 06:22 AM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
Go the TT-01...

HPI I doubt will ever spend any money making Proper hop ups for the E10... Its just not good enough


I have a HPI Sprint 2 and absolutely can recommend it.... I also have a TT-01 and can recommend that

I also have a Hot Bodies Cyclone S and I can Really recommend it...

I just cannot bring my self to Justify the price for the Quality on the E10.... a HBX Lancer is Cheaper and offers far better value...

HpiDrifter420 01-08-2008 02:00 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 


ORIGINAL: magnat

Go the TT-01...

HPI I doubt will ever spend any money making Proper hop ups for the E10... Its just not good enough


I have a HPI Sprint 2 and absolutely can recommend it.... I also have a TT-01 and can recommend that

I also have a Hot Bodies Cyclone S and I can Really recommend it...

I just cannot bring my self to Justify the price for the Quality on the E10.... a HBX Lancer is Cheaper and offers far better value...
get the sprint2 way better kar then the e10

joeyblaze 01-08-2008 04:08 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
TTO1R X 2 :)

rotor head33 01-08-2008 07:53 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
my e10 has done amazing i dont see why only magnat has had problems.hmmmm anywyas i udjusted the mesh of the motor just take a piece of paper put it between the gears and titen up i have no noise and great power i hav put 19ts in it and no slapping noise so i dont know what the hell he is talking about it is a great car

Poverse 01-08-2008 08:09 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
^Can you AIM me and explain to me how to do that? Im new to RC, My E10 is 2 days old, and I dont want these problems!!!!

AIM: wakostud27

Ellimist 01-08-2008 08:46 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
hahaha. i have a speed gems kobal (that's a 13t double for those who aren't gem-savvy) and the drive shaft is fine. just replace the two bushings with bearings or eventually they will wear out.

e10drifter 01-09-2008 12:01 AM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
magnat stop bashing on the e10. you are the only person with problems and everybody keeps spreading what you are saying. I have an E10 and I have ZERO PROBLEMS ilove it! I can hang with my co workers sprint 2 and nitro rs4

DriftProjectR 01-09-2008 12:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: e10drifter

magnat stop bashing on the e10. you are the only person with problems and everybody keeps spreading what you are saying. I have an E10 and I have ZERO PROBLEMS ilove it! I can hang with my co workers sprint 2 and nitro rs4
IMO

i hate to say it, there is to many problems to deal with, i dont really think the e10 is worth all the trouble. i personally think that the tt01 is worth the extra cash.

i really dont think that the e10 is on the same grade as the sprint 2, cyclone, tc4, or yokomo.

[&o]

HpiDrifter420 01-09-2008 10:12 AM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 


ORIGINAL: DriftProjectR



ORIGINAL: e10drifter

magnat stop bashing on the e10. you are the only person with problems and everybody keeps spreading what you are saying. I have an E10 and I have ZERO PROBLEMS ilove it! I can hang with my co workers sprint 2 and nitro rs4
IMO

i hate to say it, there is to many problems to deal with, i dont really think the e10 is worth all the trouble. i personally think that the tt01 is worth the extra cash.

i really dont think that the e10 is on the same grade as the sprint 2, cyclone, tc4, or yokomo.

[&o]
the sprint2 is way better than a e10. the e10 is a ok car thats it.

vge 01-09-2008 12:12 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
I say get a TC3/TC4 and call it a day.

DriftProjectR 01-09-2008 03:23 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 
forget them all. save our money and just get a yokomo and do all the stages on it. :D

vge 01-09-2008 03:33 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 


ORIGINAL: DriftProjectR

forget them all. save our money and just get a yokomo and do all the stages on it. :D

Dude are you serious? Do you know how much cash he will be spending getting all stages and one of those Yokomo cars? that's a hella lot of saving. If you go that rout you will be totally wasting your cash. You can get the same results at a quarter of the price. Yokomo is on crack. As long as people keep buying that mess they will never drop the prices.

DriftProjectR 01-11-2008 12:15 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 


ORIGINAL: vge



ORIGINAL: DriftProjectR

forget them all. save our money and just get a yokomo and do all the stages on it. :D

Dude are you serious? Do you know how much cash he will be spending getting all stages and one of those Yokomo cars? that's a hella lot of saving. If you go that rout you will be totally wasting your cash. You can get the same results at a quarter of the price. Yokomo is on crack. As long as people keep buying that mess they will never drop the prices.
hold on one second. dont even start bashing, it was only for laughs.

but, i can justify or we can alll justify and prove hwo good yokomo products are. what do you drive bud a tc4?

the tc4 is nothing but a another onroad car, ot limit is hit with just a couple of upgrades, and plus tc4 have bad torque steer. (i use to drive on for NKC PRO-Class 2007, so dont even start)

yokomo in the other hand has brought drifting to the next level. without them we would all still be half-*****ing drift.

have you ever competed in a rc drift compition? if you did then you would know what the real drivers use and what makes a real drift car, period.

vge 01-11-2008 12:57 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 


ORIGINAL: DriftProjectR



ORIGINAL: vge



ORIGINAL: DriftProjectR

forget them all. save our money and just get a yokomo and do all the stages on it. :D

Dude are you serious? Do you know how much cash he will be spending getting all stages and one of those Yokomo cars? that's a hella lot of saving. If you go that rout you will be totally wasting your cash. You can get the same results at a quarter of the price. Yokomo is on crack. As long as people keep buying that mess they will never drop the prices.
hold on one second. dont even start bashing, it was only for laughs.

but, i can justify or we can alll justify and prove hwo good yokomo products are. what do you drive bud a tc4?

the tc4 is nothing but a another onroad car, ot limit is hit with just a couple of upgrades, and plus tc4 have bad torque steer. (i use to drive on for NKC PRO-Class 2007, so dont even start)

yokomo in the other hand has brought drifting to the next level. without them we would all still be half-*****ing drift.

have you ever competed in a rc drift compition? if you did then you would know what the real drivers use and what makes a real drift car, period.
You are funny. First off the professional drivers don't pay for their stuff. They drive top of the line because of that reason. I never said the Yokomo stuff was junk. I said it was not worth the cash for the people that basically visit this site. As far as me being in any drift competitions, no I have not. But I have been in many others and I know that it does not take the most expensive equipment to be successful. No matter what your using. And yes Yokomo has done some really cool things. But they are way way too expensive. You can get the exact same results for much less. Whats funny about the Yokomo drift car is that it really isn't all that great. Its the stuff thats in the box that makes it so expensive. I mean jezz they sell those bodies for $60+ bucks a pop. I don't care how detailed the bodies are, they just aren't worth that much. Look at that light kit, to get the whole kit and give you the full options of patterns your gonna drop over $100+ for lights. I have picked up the exact same type with a pattern box for a quarter of the price. They are just too high dude. You can't justify that at all. No matter what they have done. Now you may disagree thats cool. But I would never recommend those to the first timer into the drift hobby. You can take a lesser car, add some good hop ups and be just as successful drifting and look just as good as any of the yokomo cars for much less.

DriftProjectR 01-11-2008 02:42 PM

RE: hpi e10 mazda rx-7. is it any good???need help quick!!!
 

ORIGINAL: vge



ORIGINAL: DriftProjectR



ORIGINAL: vge



ORIGINAL: DriftProjectR

forget them all. save our money and just get a yokomo and do all the stages on it. :D

Dude are you serious? Do you know how much cash he will be spending getting all stages and one of those Yokomo cars? that's a hella lot of saving. If you go that rout you will be totally wasting your cash. You can get the same results at a quarter of the price. Yokomo is on crack. As long as people keep buying that mess they will never drop the prices.
hold on one second. dont even start bashing, it was only for laughs.

but, i can justify or we can alll justify and prove hwo good yokomo products are. what do you drive bud a tc4?

the tc4 is nothing but a another onroad car, ot limit is hit with just a couple of upgrades, and plus tc4 have bad torque steer. (i use to drive on for NKC PRO-Class 2007, so dont even start)

yokomo in the other hand has brought drifting to the next level. without them we would all still be half-*****ing drift.

have you ever competed in a rc drift compition? if you did then you would know what the real drivers use and what makes a real drift car, period.
You are funny. First off the professional drivers don't pay for their stuff. They drive top of the line because of that reason. I never said the Yokomo stuff was junk. I said it was not worth the cash for the people that basically visit this site. As far as me being in any drift competitions, no I have not. But I have been in many others and I know that it does not take the most expensive equipment to be successful. No matter what your using. And yes Yokomo has done some really cool things. But they are way way too expensive. You can get the exact same results for much less. Whats funny about the Yokomo drift car is that it really isn't all that great. Its the stuff thats in the box that makes it so expensive. I mean jezz they sell those bodies for $60+ bucks a pop. I don't care how detailed the bodies are, they just aren't worth that much. Look at that light kit, to get the whole kit and give you the full options of patterns your gonna drop over $100+ for lights. I have picked up the exact same type with a pattern box for a quarter of the price. They are just too high dude. You can't justify that at all. No matter what they have done. Now you may disagree thats cool. But I would never recommend those to the first timer into the drift hobby. You can take a lesser car, add some good hop ups and be just as successful drifting and look just as good as any of the yokomo cars for much less.
well, its doesnt really matter anyways. thats the difference between an enthusiast and a sponsered driver.



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