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Tomcat75 02-02-2008 08:05 PM

TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Can anyone out there give a newbie advice on what hop ups are needed to convert a standard TT 01 to drift spec? I have put drift tyres on but there has to be more I can do. What do the TT 01D's have that the standard ones dont? Cheers.....

chewyjr13 02-02-2008 09:28 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
ball bearings, oild filled shocks to begin with

Tomcat75 02-02-2008 10:13 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Yeah they are ordered and on the way....as is a front and rear sway bar set. Am I going to have to make it rear wheel drive only? - Or will it be ok in 4WD? And excuse my dumbness, but what is a pinion? Thanks for your reply it's much appreciated.

magnat 02-02-2008 10:31 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
4WD is needed for Drift... changing it to a 2WD or RWD will just make it harder to slide...

A Drift Spec TT-01 Would require:
Alloy Prop shaft.
Ball Bearings
Oil Filled Shocks

Then need Drift Spec Tyres...

Tomcat75 02-02-2008 10:57 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Is that all?

ORIGINAL: magnat

4WD is needed for Drift... changing it to a 2WD or RWD will just make it harder to slide...

A Drift Spec TT-01 Would require:
Alloy Prop shaft.
Ball Bearings
Oil Filled Shocks

Then need Drift Spec Tyres...

Tomcat75 02-02-2008 11:22 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
I have ordered the following,

engine heat sink
alloy main shaft
teflon bearings
oil shocks (which springs do I run?)
front and rear sway bars (will I need the carbon upper deck?)
HPI wheels and drift slicks

I have also just impulse purchased a tamiya Super Stock TZ motor. The guy said it would work with the current ESC/transmitter I have that came with the car as part of the EB series. I hope he's right yeah? I'm also hoping it is faster than the stock 540!?

I really don't want to change the ESC if I dont have to.

I'm also wondering about what the pinion is and what size I should get if it will help.

Will I or should I muck around with the gearing?

Thanks again guys!

Tomcat75 02-02-2008 11:29 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
BTW has anybody experienced their TT's doing tighter donuts in one direction to the other? I'm wondering if i'm going to have to replace the stock steering as well? There is a lot of movement/slack in all the wheel arms etc. Does that improve with alloy parts?

magnat 02-03-2008 07:21 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
No there is some steering Bias in a TT-01.. its normal
Stock Gearing is fine for drifting.. and the ESC MIGHT thermal on the TZ motor but then again it might not..

Fresh* 02-03-2008 09:05 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Just to let you know you will need a carbon upper deck to mount the sway bars ;)

TIGER76 02-03-2008 09:32 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Motor will be fine on that ESC m8
and a pinion is the cog that goes on the end of the motor shaft and connects to the spur gear(which drives the shaft)
pinion sizes alter gearing so bigger pinion and smaller spur = more top end and smaller pinion and bigger spur = more torque but less speed.
23/58 gearing is nice for drifting ive found.

DriftProjectR 02-03-2008 05:36 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 


ORIGINAL: Fresh*

Just to let you know you will need a carbon upper deck to mount the sway bars ;)
dont you also need the tamiya udjustable arms.

Tomcat75 02-04-2008 12:56 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Wow, thanks guys..... You have helped me out heaps....cheers

Fresh* 02-04-2008 10:45 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 

dont you also need the tamiya udjustable arms.
Oh right, thats correct. I always forget that the standard TT-01 has fixed upper arms.

Tomcat75 02-04-2008 03:40 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
So I need Tamiya brand adjustable arms? Does anyone have a part number for them? Will I need the top deck too?

Tomcat75 02-06-2008 03:00 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Ahhh i know i'm bein a pain in the ass but can someone please give me a heads up on these arms? I've bought the top deck too! So dont wanna have all this crap and not be able to fit it. I guess I need the full name of the parts cause I dont know what arms your talkin about. If someone could give a part number that would be a massive help.

chewyjr13 02-06-2008 05:24 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
go on rc mart their not made by tamiya i think they are made by gpm part number GPM #TT160

Calamari100 02-06-2008 10:43 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Tomcat just to let you know, to mount the sway bar set you will need the carbon upper frame and the adjustable suspension arms, both parts purchased seperately.

DriftProjectR 02-06-2008 12:16 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGHJ7&P=Z heres the adjustable arms you asked about.

Tomcat75 02-06-2008 04:18 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
You're a legend! I assume I'll need a set for both front and rear? Thanks so much....

jsainato 02-06-2008 04:40 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
This is a great thread. I've got a TT-01 on the way and I needed a lot of this information as well. One other thing... I'm thinking about how I want my car to look as well and have an idea in mind. The question is, what size wheels do I need for this car? I want to make sure I get the right size, obviously.

DriftProjectR 02-06-2008 06:30 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
you will need a 190mm body. if you use a 200mm you will need very wide offset rims to make the body look flushed.

peetiewonder 02-06-2008 07:18 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
yeah with a tt01 u can run 10mm offset with some 190bodies.

AnonymousJoe 02-07-2008 02:35 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Someone says in another post that the tt-01 suffers from a one way steering bias due to weight ratio. If you used a lipo wouldnt that be more power and less weight? try and even the car out.

DriftProjectR 02-07-2008 11:27 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 


ORIGINAL: AnonymousJoe

Someone says in another post that the tt-01 suffers from a one way steering bias due to weight ratio. If you used a lipo wouldnt that be more power and less weight? try and even the car out.
that would definetly help. you can put your car on a tweak station and couterweight the off balanced weight with counter weights (stick weights).

Tomcat75 02-08-2008 12:40 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
I've ordered the adjustable upper arms! should have a pretty sweet kit soon.

DriftProjectR 02-08-2008 12:55 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
cool! post some pics when its all done! :D

Tomcat75 02-09-2008 05:25 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
A mate of mine just ordered a TT 01-R it doesn't come with receiver or servo... whats good to get, so he can get started?

DriftProjectR 02-09-2008 12:24 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 


ORIGINAL: Tomcat75

A mate of mine just ordered a TT 01-R it doesn't come with receiver or servo... whats good to get, so he can get started?
buy a radio, like a futaba or airtronics (just some cheap 2 channel to get you started; even used works) and buy a good cheap servo. i say a hitec 645 or something.

hope that helps.

Tomcat75 02-09-2008 08:05 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Thanks mate, your help has been much appreciated. I am about to order the size 23 pinion you suggested but cant find a spur gear to go with it?

Tomcat75 02-09-2008 08:10 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LX3466&P=7

would this fit in a TT 01?

DriftProjectR 02-09-2008 09:45 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 

Thanks mate, your help has been much appreciated. I am about to order the size 23 pinion you suggested but cant find a spur gear to go with it?
thats a good pinion gear.
thats for a team associate bud. hehe

you can use this:
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/produc...oducts_id=7523

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/produc...oducts_id=8553


i personally like the 58T spur gear.

just me though. :D




Tomcat75 02-10-2008 12:56 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Project R you are the man.... thanks for all your help.

Last night - seein i'm getting the new springs, I cut the stock ones and was getting a good drift action from it. I made the rear slightly lower and it seemed to keep the car closer to "on the spot donuts" without drifting off to the left or right. It's bloody low...about 4mm off the deck!

After about 5 mins the motor crapped itself somehow. I cant get inside it to suss it out as it's the stock 540. My TZ has arrived so I swapped the cog on the end of the motor (is that the pinion there?) and dropped it in, but the silver cog just spun without contacting the big white cog on the end of the main shaft! How does that happen? It seemed to be contacting when it was on the 540? Maybe I have stripped it cause the teeth on the white cog (is that the spur?!) look a little blunt but not too bad?

Im confused! Again!

cheeseclip 02-10-2008 01:12 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Why is a alloy driveshaft nessecary?

DriftProjectR 02-10-2008 04:23 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 


ORIGINAL: Tomcat75

Project R you are the man.... thanks for all your help.

Last night - seein i'm getting the new springs, I cut the stock ones and was getting a good drift action from it. I made the rear slightly lower and it seemed to keep the car closer to "on the spot donuts" without drifting off to the left or right. It's bloody low...about 4mm off the deck!

After about 5 mins the motor crapped itself somehow. I cant get inside it to suss it out as it's the stock 540. My TZ has arrived so I swapped the cog on the end of the motor (is that the pinion there?) and dropped it in, but the silver cog just spun without contacting the big white cog on the end of the main shaft! How does that happen? It seemed to be contacting when it was on the 540? Maybe I have stripped it cause the teeth on the white cog (is that the spur?!) look a little blunt but not too bad?

Im confused! Again!
Cutting your springs is ok for now. i personally would just buy the spring set and test which springs work best for you. Personally i like really soft in the front (more steering control and angle) and hard in the rear (it make it eaiser to get it to break lose).

heres the springs: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGH23&P=Z

i dont know why the "cog" (motor) died on you; it happens. the problem is now is the gear mesh. you probally set the motor mount wrong (the thing thing you attached to the "cog"). you wear and tear on the "white cog" (spur gear) is normal.

hope that helps! :D


Why is a alloy driveshaft nessecary?
the plastice one flex to much at high RPMs. its also usually hollow so it tends to have more inhertia.

Tomcat75 02-12-2008 03:11 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
I pulled it apart, did it again and now she's sweet. I havn't had a chance to test the car since I swapped motors but the TZ sure sounds like it's going to have a heap more torque. I think i'll wait for the rest of the ordered bits to arrive before I run it. Hopefully the bearings, springs and assorted alloy hop ups - along with the new motor, will keep those wheels spinnin!

Tomcat75 02-14-2008 06:11 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 

ORIGINAL: DriftProjectR



ORIGINAL: Tomcat75

A mate of mine just ordered a TT 01-R it doesn't come with receiver or servo... whats good to get, so he can get started?
buy a radio, like a futaba or airtronics (just some cheap 2 channel to get you started; even used works) and buy a good cheap servo. i say a hitec 645 or something.

hope that helps.

hey man would this work, looks like it has a servo too....

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Attack-2ER-Fu...QQcmdZViewItem

x2o 02-14-2008 04:50 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 


ORIGINAL: Tomcat75


ORIGINAL: DriftProjectR



ORIGINAL: Tomcat75

A mate of mine just ordered a TT 01-R it doesn't come with receiver or servo... whats good to get, so he can get started?
buy a radio, like a futaba or airtronics (just some cheap 2 channel to get you started; even used works) and buy a good cheap servo. i say a hitec 645 or something.

hope that helps.

hey man would this work, looks like it has a servo too....

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Attack-2ER-Fu...QQcmdZViewItem
That radio will work, but is he set on driving with a stick radio? The majority of R/C Land drivers use pistol grips, I prefer pistol grips as do most for cars, but if you want a stick then go for a stick.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXASX2**&P=7

That is a great pistol radio for just entering the hobby, if you want pistol I'd go for that one.

Another thing, I think the futaba 2ER only comes with air frequencies, it will still work but you'll just be different. :P And odds are you won't be able to race with an air frequency crystal, at least that's how it is around here where I live.

jsainato 02-15-2008 08:34 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Can someone suggest a decent set of oil-filled shocks? I've got the bearings and propeller shaft on the way already.

TIGER76 02-15-2008 11:08 AM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
The tamiya CVA oil shocks are pretty good if your switching from friction ones m8 ;)

x2o 02-15-2008 05:45 PM

RE: TT 01 Converting to drift spec.
 
Yeah, I use the CVA shocks from tamiya on both my lunchbox and my TT01R, amazing set of shocks for the price.


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