Need Advice Coming back to rc cars after 10+ years
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RE: Need Advice Coming back to rc cars after 10+ years
yeah, definetly no low voltage cutoff on the XL5
sounds like you've got a good plan for getting this bandit running cheaply then moving on to a newer RC
on the 6 cell vs 7 cell, a quality 6 cell pack will outrun a cheap 7 cell pack. I think I'd advise getting a high capacity 6 cell over a 7 cell
the 7 cell will also burn up your motors faster, so they'll need replacement more often
sounds like you've got a good plan for getting this bandit running cheaply then moving on to a newer RC
on the 6 cell vs 7 cell, a quality 6 cell pack will outrun a cheap 7 cell pack. I think I'd advise getting a high capacity 6 cell over a 7 cell
the 7 cell will also burn up your motors faster, so they'll need replacement more often
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RE: Need Advice Coming back to rc cars after 10+ years
ORIGINAL: DEMON1C
4.) Cant remember the name of it 4wd full metal chasis 2 speed gear box truck I think it was a toyota? but I cannot remember what it was. I got it off of a friend. Maybe a Tamiya?
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Oh man, this is making me want to find where I stashed my Tamiya Hornet I got back in the 80s... lol
Good luck DEMON1C! Please keep us updated!
Oh man, this is making me want to find where I stashed my Tamiya Hornet I got back in the 80s... lol
Good luck DEMON1C! Please keep us updated!
But I'm sure the Tamiya F-350 Highlift that's still in production is the same thing.
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RE: Need Advice Coming back to rc cars after 10+ years
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yeah, definetly no low voltage cutoff on the XL5
sounds like you've got a good plan for getting this bandit running cheaply then moving on to a newer RC
on the 6 cell vs 7 cell, a quality 6 cell pack will outrun a cheap 7 cell pack. I think I'd advise getting a high capacity 6 cell over a 7 cell
the 7 cell will also burn up your motors faster, so they'll need replacement more often
yeah, definetly no low voltage cutoff on the XL5
sounds like you've got a good plan for getting this bandit running cheaply then moving on to a newer RC
on the 6 cell vs 7 cell, a quality 6 cell pack will outrun a cheap 7 cell pack. I think I'd advise getting a high capacity 6 cell over a 7 cell
the 7 cell will also burn up your motors faster, so they'll need replacement more often
That would be a Tamiya Toyota Hilux, those are rare these days.
But I'm sure the Tamiya F-350 Highlift that's still in production is the same thing.
But I'm sure the Tamiya F-350 Highlift that's still in production is the same thing.
Actually it was the Tamiya Bruiser. I did some research and found it. 1986 model
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RE: Need Advice Coming back to rc cars after 10+ years
Lipo is really the way to go you can get 45 plus mins with a lipo under $30.
just buy an external lipo cutoff or a lipo voltage buzzer you can get one under $10
just buy an external lipo cutoff or a lipo voltage buzzer you can get one under $10
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Lipo is really the way to go you can get 45 plus mins with a lipo under $30.
just buy an external lipo cutoff or a lipo voltage buzzer you can get one under $10
Lipo is really the way to go you can get 45 plus mins with a lipo under $30.
just buy an external lipo cutoff or a lipo voltage buzzer you can get one under $10
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RE: Need Advice Coming back to rc cars after 10+ years
Here's the lipo I have it's a 2 cell lipo 2s 7.4 volts and it has 5200 mah you have full power till right at the end when it all drops off at once.
I thought that I only wanted nimh till I bought my first lipo and I was amazed I used to carry 7 nimh batteries now I carry 1 lipo.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=14991
Here's the lipo that I'm using in my hpi blitz with a vxl system not the best system I really don't car for traxxas much anymore I get around 45-50 min with this setup.
I recomend buying a name brand battery charger with an ac cord I use this charger
http://www.google.com/products/catal...ls=org.mozilla
I bought it used for under $40
and you could buy a cheap low voltage cutoff or buzzer from hobbyking or somewhere.
I store my lipos in a metal ammo box just to be safe.
I thought that I only wanted nimh till I bought my first lipo and I was amazed I used to carry 7 nimh batteries now I carry 1 lipo.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=14991
Here's the lipo that I'm using in my hpi blitz with a vxl system not the best system I really don't car for traxxas much anymore I get around 45-50 min with this setup.
I recomend buying a name brand battery charger with an ac cord I use this charger
http://www.google.com/products/catal...ls=org.mozilla
I bought it used for under $40
and you could buy a cheap low voltage cutoff or buzzer from hobbyking or somewhere.
I store my lipos in a metal ammo box just to be safe.
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I'm in the exact same situation. I created a new post (sorry), but I suppose I should copy it here.
I've got myself a stock 10 year old bandit that I would like to update. Model (2401/2410), Stinger motor, mechanical speed control, ect. I figure I could pick up a Castle Sidewinder 4600 or 5700 system some lipos and be good to go. Then I started looking at anassociatedB4.1.
A new B4.1 kit would cost about $400 with a Castle Sidewinder 4600 or 5700. I realize I can get something comparable for less if I buy a RTR, but half of the reason I'm doing this is for the sake of building it.
I figure to upgrade the bandit will cost me roughly $200. $40 for complete Bandit vxl gearbox (I've been told the stock differential and idle gears will fail under the new motor) $30 for somebearingcarriers andbearings. and $130 for the Brushless setup.
However, I'm more than willing to spend the difference ($200) on the Bandit if it would becomparableto a B4.1. Better shocks, some aluminum hop ups, maybe even new servos.
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What do you say? $400 for a B4.1 with Castle Sidewinder or the same amount for a decked out ...Bandit.?
I've got myself a stock 10 year old bandit that I would like to update. Model (2401/2410), Stinger motor, mechanical speed control, ect. I figure I could pick up a Castle Sidewinder 4600 or 5700 system some lipos and be good to go. Then I started looking at anassociatedB4.1.
A new B4.1 kit would cost about $400 with a Castle Sidewinder 4600 or 5700. I realize I can get something comparable for less if I buy a RTR, but half of the reason I'm doing this is for the sake of building it.
I figure to upgrade the bandit will cost me roughly $200. $40 for complete Bandit vxl gearbox (I've been told the stock differential and idle gears will fail under the new motor) $30 for somebearingcarriers andbearings. and $130 for the Brushless setup.
However, I'm more than willing to spend the difference ($200) on the Bandit if it would becomparableto a B4.1. Better shocks, some aluminum hop ups, maybe even new servos.
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What do you say? $400 for a B4.1 with Castle Sidewinder or the same amount for a decked out ...Bandit.?
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I'm in the exact same situation. I created a new post (sorry), but I suppose I should copy it here.
I've got myself a stock 10 year old bandit that I would like to update. Model (2401/2410), Stinger motor, mechanical speed control, ect. I figure I could pick up a Castle Sidewinder 4600 or 5700 system some lipos and be good to go. Then I started looking at anassociatedB4.1.
A new B4.1 kit would cost about $400 with a Castle Sidewinder 4600 or 5700. I realize I can get something comparable for less if I buy a RTR, but half of the reason I'm doing this is for the sake of building it.
I figure to upgrade the bandit will cost me roughly $200. $40 for complete Bandit vxl gearbox (I've been told the stock differential and idle gears will fail under the new motor) $30 for somebearingcarriers andbearings. and $130 for the Brushless setup.
However, I'm more than willing to spend the difference ($200) on the Bandit if it would becomparableto a B4.1. Better shocks, some aluminum hop ups, maybe even new servos.
<o></o>
What do you say? $400 for a B4.1 with Castle Sidewinder or the same amount for a decked out ...Bandit.?
I'm in the exact same situation. I created a new post (sorry), but I suppose I should copy it here.
I've got myself a stock 10 year old bandit that I would like to update. Model (2401/2410), Stinger motor, mechanical speed control, ect. I figure I could pick up a Castle Sidewinder 4600 or 5700 system some lipos and be good to go. Then I started looking at anassociatedB4.1.
A new B4.1 kit would cost about $400 with a Castle Sidewinder 4600 or 5700. I realize I can get something comparable for less if I buy a RTR, but half of the reason I'm doing this is for the sake of building it.
I figure to upgrade the bandit will cost me roughly $200. $40 for complete Bandit vxl gearbox (I've been told the stock differential and idle gears will fail under the new motor) $30 for somebearingcarriers andbearings. and $130 for the Brushless setup.
However, I'm more than willing to spend the difference ($200) on the Bandit if it would becomparableto a B4.1. Better shocks, some aluminum hop ups, maybe even new servos.
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What do you say? $400 for a B4.1 with Castle Sidewinder or the same amount for a decked out ...Bandit.?
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RE: Need Advice Coming back to rc cars after 10+ years
The Sidewinder 4600 (and SCT 3800 for that matter) is WORLDS better than the Associated brushless setup, and if he gets the Factory Team B4.1 he gets the snazzy new shocks and CVAs. If you can afford to snag a kit and do it RIGHT, why bother doing it any other way?
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RE: Need Advice Coming back to rc cars after 10+ years
you don't need a $40 gear box. even though its really old the new steel gears will be the same and work fine. that's what i did.
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you don't need a $40 gear box. even though its really old the new steel gears will be the same and work fine. that's what i did.
you don't need a $40 gear box. even though its really old the new steel gears will be the same and work fine. that's what i did.
you need the steel idler and the metal ringed diff case
should run you about $15
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yep. and if you don't even have that, just get the steel idler for like 8 bucks. the plastic one strips extremely easy, i stripped mine on the XL-5 setup. i now have a steel idler gear, steel top gear, and a plastic diff. i run the VXL setup and have had no problems with this combo of gears, although with a good lipo the diff would probably strip.
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RE: Need Advice Coming back to rc cars after 10+ years
I appreciate the replies guys. I'm going to start fresh with the B4.1. Looking forward to putting the thing together ASAP. The Bandit's still in fine shape; some grease and a new battery and my future kids will have something to bash around with. Also its nice to now that it can be brushless ready for cheap. Thanks Again
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RE: Need Advice Coming back to rc cars after 10+ years
no problem. and if your looking for something to put in your Bandit cheap and for a beginner, then the XL-5 ESC paired with a Venom Fireball motor of your choice is a great combo. It won't cost you more than 60 bucks, and the motor is rebuildable so no more buying $20 new motorsbecauseyour brushes are bad. Plus, it will add lots of power to that Bandit, especially for a brushed setup.