electricrc68

are the venom racing fireball motors better than the titan 12T? im talking specifically about the 13T fireball motor. is it a lot more reliable and have a longer life?

rc awesome

Thought that you were getting brushless

electricrc68

yeah but i thought about it and im not going to. im going to instead keep my bandit brushed and from now on buy cars that are already BL.

rc awesome

Oh? Well anything is better than a titan IMO. It'll be a little slower than your titan though. But in the long run you should still go brushless

sloppyG

12t is a 550, the 13t is a 540 and will run hotter, you'll have to regear. 13t is actually a pretty aggressive wind, 17t or 19t would last you longer and run cooler

but I don't see the point in tossing more money at brushed motors

$20 here, $20 there and all of a sudden you've spent more money than if you'd just bought what you wanted in the first place

electricrc68

idk. im going to think about it in the future. but for now im thinking of just keeping it brushed.

cooldriver385

What in the world is holding you back from the beauty and amazement of brushless power?

Haddi Taha

maybe he might have money on other projects ect. but for the original question, i don't like venom, there quality control is terrible, one excellent product then one crap one. Out of the 4 venoms stuff i owned, 2 don't work, one was the pro charger which electricuted me when i touched it, the other was a helicopter. I actually have a venom lipo charging bag which i don't trust will prevent a lipo fire [X(]

What ever you go with always gear a bit to the torque side and moniter heat. Traxxas cars are geared to the top speed side for a bigger number on the box.

BigTb17

Also keep in mind, I believe the XL5 ESC is only rated for a minimum of 15 turns on 540 motors. I would check that before buying a 13 turn and ending up with more problems.

john01374

You're going to have 2 problems here.

1) Fireball motors are junk plain and simple. I was drawn in by the low price too many years ago and every one of them died very early deaths. One was so bad the rotor was hitting the magnets inside the can when it was brand new. I don't often slam a brand but those are junk... Sorry If I offend anyone.

2) A 13 turn 540 is lower than the XL5 ESC can handle reliably. It will run the motor but it will run hot and eventually fail.

You will also have to gear the 13 turn really low even in a Bandit to keep the motor from over heating.

If you have to stick with brushed motors then find a 15 turn Speed Gems or buy another Titan and break it in correctly. The Titan is not as bad as some people make it out to be if it's broke in and maintained. If you don't take care of it then you should expect it to fail.

SyCo_VeNoM

completely agree
I tried a 21d, and that sucker lasted 20 feet before overheating in a damn Brama 10b geared low...

ThunderbirdJunkie

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Venom's Fireball motors are junk, and aptly named.

There is no such thing as a good, cheap brushed motor.

electricrc68

okay thanks guys. well guess i will get a brushless system in it but im not going to be getting it anytime soon.

cooldriver385

It's only 80 bucks for an EZ-Run...

Haddi Taha

you can get a ezrun 60amp esc $40 and a tacon motor $25 from hobbypartz. Thats the cheapest reliable setup

samguan

Fireball motors do suck.

I used to run them in my former SC10.

Not much torque at all and after couple runs, motor emits weird squeaking noise.

electricrc68

yeah thats the one im thinking of getting. but first i need to get a new charger that is capable of charging lipos. thats another $40 added onto that....i have $500, but my dad doesn't like me spending too much on my car when i have school. thats why i might order it on spring break or somewhere around there.

rc awesome

With 500$ sell your bandit and buy a savage flux 2350. You'll still have enough to get a decent charger and some Turnigy lipos

sloppyG

it's never really a good idea to spend all the money you have on RC cars

electricrc68

yeah i know lol. thats why im going to start a budget....im going to put a certain amount towards my rc cars and the rest towards something else.

ThunderbirdJunkie

My Feedback: (3)

Edited for life lesson[&:]

electricrc68

LOL your funny. but seriously i dont have to pay bills or taxes or the such yet so idk what to spend it on other than rc...

sloppyG

college, retirement..... you have plenty to save for

electricrc68

yeah true. but what my dad is doing is he has a couple of houses he has for rent, and i overheard his conversation with my mom, and he said once im ready for college, hes going to sell one of the houses and help with funding for my college education which im aiming towards veterinary. and for retirement....i don't even have a salary yet.....

rc awesome