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Old 07-12-2006, 05:28 AM
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Default battery wires too hot

iam running a losixxx4g+ with peak racing 15turn motor and mtronics viper rv 11 esc with a 3600mah batt
after about 5-10 mins of running the batt leads get very hot so hot its blacking the pins on the conection
is this normal
Old 07-12-2006, 05:43 AM
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

Its normal when they can't handle the current going through them. Upgrade to the "Deans Style" connectors.

They look like this:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXKX39&P=ML
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

thanks[8D] should i change the wires as well to thicker ones
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Old 07-12-2006, 06:14 AM
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

If the insulation looks bad on them you sould go thicker, but the wires you have now should be fine.
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thanks for your help i was woried it would melt or worse catch fire!!!!!!!
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

yup tamiya plugs have a lot of resistance, the deans plugs are considered "loss less" as they only have as much resistance as the equal length of 12 gawg wire. I think you should leave your wires as they are unless they are in bad condition. I would also replace the bullet connectors going from your ESC to motor, they have quite a bit of resistance too...
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

For 1/10th scale it is always safest to use 12-guage and dean's plugs. Sometimes the connectors themselves heat up, and then the heat is carried through the wire.
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

you should get thicker gauge wire, and also shorten them. shorter and thicker wires makes less resistance. therefore less heat. also id suggest deans connectors.

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Old 07-12-2006, 10:18 PM
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

Like everyone said, get Deans and either hardwire your motor or use Deans there too. This should give you more power and make virtually no heat in the wires and connectors.
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

thanks to everyone for all your help
i will do wot you sugested once again thanks
Old 07-13-2006, 05:57 PM
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

If you really want to go pro you should dissasemble your battery pack and reassemble it into a side by side pack.
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

The tamiya plugs are prone to loosen up after a while, the actual white plastic plug may seem snug fitting but the actual connector inside is loose, this causes it to heat up easily.

Like others said, use dean's plugs.
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

how do you mean side by side iam quite new to all this?

ps thanks to you all ive now hard wired my motor and fitted deans plugs and its much better more responsive and i think quicker once again thanks alot
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

I have this same problem but only when i charge my battery because i charge it with alligator clips and the clips are connected to the charger with a tamiya plug. I use duratrax powerpole connector on all my stuff, motor battery etc..
they are made out of silver and it like having everything hardwired. they're the best. here is the link.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXD175&P=7
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

ORIGINAL: fernandorussell

I have this same problem but only when i charge my battery because i charge it with alligator clips and the clips are connected to the charger with a tamiya plug. I use duratrax powerpole connector on all my stuff, motor battery etc..
they are made out of silver and it like having everything hardwired. they're the best. here is the link.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXD175&P=7
actually they have a tad more resistance than deans and it is possible to plug them in reverse.
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

1st pic is a stick pack like yours, second pic is a side by side pack. In a stick pack the cells are held on top of each other by little tin strips that are usually spot welded in place. A side by side packs uses soldered on battery bars which have much less resistance. If your gonna be making a side by side pack I recomend deans battery bars. I think powerpoles actually have a tad less resistance, both are lossless connectors meaning you have less resistance than the same length of wire so it does'nt really matter, I like deans cause they only connect one way.
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Old 07-15-2006, 05:14 AM
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

thanks alot for all you help thats a great help.
looks like ive a busy weekend ahead
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Default RE: battery wires too hot

ORIGINAL: hands without shadows

1st pic is a stick pack like yours, second pic is a side by side pack. In a stick pack the cells are held on top of each other by little tin strips that are usually spot welded in place. A side by side packs uses soldered on battery bars which have much less resistance. If your gonna be making a side by side pack I recomend deans battery bars. I think powerpoles actually have a tad less resistance, both are lossless connectors meaning you have less resistance than the same length of wire so it does'nt really matter, I like deans cause they only connect one way.
I don't remember what RCCA issue it was but they measured the resistance of all the popular plugs. Each plug was attached to a 12" piece of 12 gawg and then measured. The results were deans 4 milliohms, powerpole 5 milliohms, tamiya 13 milliohms, bullet, 7 milliohms, or so I remember.

Antsb I do not reccomend that you convert your packs to SXS. SXS is better but it is a lot of work and you need a very strong soldering gun to do the job. Unless you are running brushless or really low turn motors you won't notice a difference at all.

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