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11-22-2007, 10:20 PM
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Trying to find a cheaper way...
Im trying to find a cheaper way to convert my Warhead to brushless but the MMM even though it is very cheap for what you get is a little to much for me to spend. Im looking at the Great Planes Ammo 36-88 motor and the Mamba Max ESC. It comes to a total of $240. Thats saves me $60. What do you guys think?
11-22-2007, 10:45 PM
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
people say the MM is fine but I tried it out today and I dont really think it can handle the heavier trucks.
probably just works good on buggies and light MTs
probably just works good on buggies and light MTs
11-22-2007, 11:03 PM
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
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people say the MM is fine but I tried it out today and I dont really think it can handle the heavier trucks.
probably just works good on buggies and light MTs
people say the MM is fine but I tried it out today and I dont really think it can handle the heavier trucks.
probably just works good on buggies and light MTs
I hope the mamba does me well. The first thing I might do is unsolder them small 13ga wires and put some Deans 12ga wet noodle wire on it for less resistance.
11-22-2007, 11:54 PM
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
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people say the MM is fine but I tried it out today and I dont really think it can handle the heavier trucks.
probably just works good on buggies and light MTs
people say the MM is fine but I tried it out today and I dont really think it can handle the heavier trucks.
probably just works good on buggies and light MTs
11-23-2007, 02:43 PM
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
What happened?! You were so excited to get your mmm? I think it is a great idea though. Those ammo motors you are looking at are beasts! I believe the mm will hold up just fine.
Good luck
Good luck
11-23-2007, 09:14 PM
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Im really nervous about getting the MM though because I've never really felt confortable with it. I do like the adjustability though.[8D]For sure that if I get the MM I will be soldering on Deans Wet Noodle 12awg wire or Deans Ultra 12awg wire onto the curcuit board. I dont like the stock skinny 13awg wire at all.[:'(] I will most definetaly be using dual fans. Possibly run a fan through the MM by drilling holes.
11-23-2007, 10:21 PM
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
5s is insane and you would need a deadbeat motor two suckup all that voltage, i think if you ran 5s on a warhead with a 9xl the drivetrain would need work. some setups you can run 5/6s packs but without a solid mount and some upgrades that setup will run threw you truck like milk and cookie's. your truck would be great on 3/4s with the right motor even faster than 5/6s it just takes some screwin around to get it right .
11-23-2007, 10:28 PM
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
I ran my Warhead on 14.4v (2x IB4200 6-cell packs)(MM ESC and a Feigao 8xl) already an it really wasnt anything special. It didnt pop wheelie's and it went maybe 30mph. Many people have reccomended that I run 6s but I dont want to spend that much on just a battery. The Ammo 36-88 motor is made to run on 5s-6s for best efficiency. Im pretty sure that a 5s, a MM ESC and the Ammo 36-88 will be the perfect combo for what Im willing to spend. I will end up getting the MMM ESC when it comes out in Feb.
11-24-2007, 09:01 AM
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well I wouldnt risk it for $60 more you basically get a neu(I know they arent the same but they are close enough) and DOUBLE THE amp handling. I have my MM all figured out now and its going to have to last me until the MMM comes out. All I did was remove the bec wire and the temperature dropped to 45 so now it runs about 145 on dirt, and get this 175 in the grass. you can definatly tell when that motor want lots of amps by watching the MM temp. ran it on the road for speed runs(I have to roll on to prevent wheelies) and the temp dropped down to 125. all of that was on a 10lb revo(no batts) on 4s lipo. (no fan, yet atleast) and an 8xl
Oh and they are right the MM is equal to the bk 9920 heatwise on 4s and I wouldnt run either of them on 5 or 6s( I cant exactly run the bk becuase it smoked)
If I were you I would see if I could save an extra $60, becasue I'm just using my rustys MM to hold me over until MMM time, and I wouldnt even be running my MM if it wasnt below 60 degrees.
Oh and they are right the MM is equal to the bk 9920 heatwise on 4s and I wouldnt run either of them on 5 or 6s( I cant exactly run the bk becuase it smoked)
If I were you I would see if I could save an extra $60, becasue I'm just using my rustys MM to hold me over until MMM time, and I wouldnt even be running my MM if it wasnt below 60 degrees.
11-24-2007, 09:02 PM
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well I wouldnt risk it for $60 more you basically get a neu(I know they arent the same but they are close enough) and DOUBLE THE amp handling. I have my MM all figured out now and its going to have to last me until the MMM comes out. All I did was remove the bec wire and the temperature dropped to 45 so now it runs about 145 on dirt, and get this 175 in the grass. you can definatly tell when that motor want lots of amps by watching the MM temp. ran it on the road for speed runs(I have to roll on to prevent wheelies) and the temp dropped down to 125. all of that was on a 10lb revo(no batts) on 4s lipo. (no fan, yet atleast) and an 8xl
Oh and they are right the MM is equal to the bk 9920 heatwise on 4s and I wouldnt run either of them on 5 or 6s( I cant exactly run the bk becuase it smoked)
If I were you I would see if I could save an extra $60, becasue I'm just using my rustys MM to hold me over until MMM time, and I wouldnt even be running my MM if it wasnt below 60 degrees.
well I wouldnt risk it for $60 more you basically get a neu(I know they arent the same but they are close enough) and DOUBLE THE amp handling. I have my MM all figured out now and its going to have to last me until the MMM comes out. All I did was remove the bec wire and the temperature dropped to 45 so now it runs about 145 on dirt, and get this 175 in the grass. you can definatly tell when that motor want lots of amps by watching the MM temp. ran it on the road for speed runs(I have to roll on to prevent wheelies) and the temp dropped down to 125. all of that was on a 10lb revo(no batts) on 4s lipo. (no fan, yet atleast) and an 8xl
Oh and they are right the MM is equal to the bk 9920 heatwise on 4s and I wouldnt run either of them on 5 or 6s( I cant exactly run the bk becuase it smoked)
If I were you I would see if I could save an extra $60, becasue I'm just using my rustys MM to hold me over until MMM time, and I wouldnt even be running my MM if it wasnt below 60 degrees.
11-25-2007, 12:15 AM
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
(Qoute from Takedown himself)The vxl is getting sent in for warranty purposes and the 8xl gets very hot when running in the warhead.
11-25-2007, 08:48 AM
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
yeah I also have an 8xl and it get very hot in my revo. I ordered a 10xl to help conserve my MM.
yeah bud more amps=more power. you either need more amps or you need more votage and considering 6s lipo cost a minumum of $230(I got quoted $230 for true rc to build me 2 3s 6400mah packs to go along with my 2s 6400s I already have) I think your going to go for the amps.
yeah bud more amps=more power. you either need more amps or you need more votage and considering 6s lipo cost a minumum of $230(I got quoted $230 for true rc to build me 2 3s 6400mah packs to go along with my 2s 6400s I already have) I think your going to go for the amps.
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
OK new plan. My parents still dont want to spend $240 on just r/c stuff so I devised an even better plan. Ill just get the Fine Design R/C Nemesis XLT-1 motor for $110 and a bunch of other small stuff such as a balancer and what not... I plan to now run 4s with a VXL ESC. Sounds dangerous but it'll do until I save for the MMM ESC.
11-26-2007, 04:52 PM
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These are all good idea's. But, make up your mind!
These are all good idea's. But, make up your mind!
11-26-2007, 05:39 PM
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
Have you looked at Fine Design's Combo's?
[link=http://finedesignrc.com/motorsnemesisblueesccombos.asp]Nemesis Blue Motor - BK 9920 ESC[/link]
Or [link=http://home.comcast.net/~milemarkers/Motors-ESCs-Brushless.htm]Kershaw Designs Feigao?[/link]
NB. remember it is 5mm shafts so you must buy mod1 pinions if you have a E-Savage/E-Zilla
The difference on these motors are only that the Feigao has a notch for the pinion screw and Nemesis has not.
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[link=http://finedesignrc.com/motorsnemesisblueesccombos.asp]Nemesis Blue Motor - BK 9920 ESC[/link]
Or [link=http://home.comcast.net/~milemarkers/Motors-ESCs-Brushless.htm]Kershaw Designs Feigao?[/link]
NB. remember it is 5mm shafts so you must buy mod1 pinions if you have a E-Savage/E-Zilla
The difference on these motors are only that the Feigao has a notch for the pinion screw and Nemesis has not.
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11-26-2007, 05:48 PM
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RE: Trying to find a cheaper way...
I had bad luck with my bk9920 and I wouldnt really recomend it becuase bk is stationed in europe so there is nothing I can do. Im stuck with a broken esc.
11-26-2007, 05:53 PM
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That was sad to hear... [&o]
I live in Norway that is in Europe, so I am very happy with it...
My next project is to waterproof the BK9920 ESC with Plastidip spray and plastic padding for winter driving.
Today I gues I am lucky cause I drive in the winter here in Norway and the ESC still works for me.
I will post movies and pictures of my car as soon as I get my new camera inhouse ;-)
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I live in Norway that is in Europe, so I am very happy with it...
My next project is to waterproof the BK9920 ESC with Plastidip spray and plastic padding for winter driving.
Today I gues I am lucky cause I drive in the winter here in Norway and the ESC still works for me.
I will post movies and pictures of my car as soon as I get my new camera inhouse ;-)
Br,
Knut Klo
Norway
11-26-2007, 06:13 PM
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really its didnt fully burn up just the receiver wires on it. but I have no Idea what im doing. I sold it to a guy for $10 and he said he would give me another $20 if he can get it working. I dont really care becasue there was nothing I could do with it.
11-26-2007, 06:44 PM
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That was sad to hear... [&o]
I live in Norway that is in Europe, so I am very happy with it...
My next project is to waterproof the BK9920 ESC with Plastidip spray and plastic padding for winter driving.
Today I gues I am lucky cause I drive in the winter here in Norway and the ESC still works for me.
I will post movies and pictures of my car as soon as I get my new camera inhouse ;-)
Br,
Knut Klo
Norway
That was sad to hear... [&o]
I live in Norway that is in Europe, so I am very happy with it...
My next project is to waterproof the BK9920 ESC with Plastidip spray and plastic padding for winter driving.
Today I gues I am lucky cause I drive in the winter here in Norway and the ESC still works for me.
I will post movies and pictures of my car as soon as I get my new camera inhouse ;-)
Br,
Knut Klo
Norway
