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Old 01-10-2010, 03:56 PM
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Hey guys I've got a traxxas rustler xl-5 and I was wondering if I can use a lrp big block special or if its even worth using?
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I would invest in a brushless system (I recommend castle) and a decent lipo. Look at the turnigys on hobbycity for the BEST bang for the buck and check hyperion for top performance.

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how many turns is the motor? brushless and lipos is the best way to go but is not necesary especially if you dont have the money to spend on that
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If you don't have the money for brushless right away, I would go for a lipo first. The battery makes the electric system. Keep an eye on themps if you choose to move from a 6-7 cell nimh to a lipo; you may have to gear down a couple teeth.
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there is no lvc for a xl5 esc though. so therefore he would have to get a lva. it would be around a $100 for a charger and around 30-40 for a lipo if you go with zippy
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Get a turnigy lipo and a turnigy charger. The lipo would run you 20-30, maybe 40 and a decent charger on hobbycity is about 40-50. You can get a battery monitor on hobbycity for $4, you would just have to find a way to mount it outside of the body.

Getting a lipo is a great reason to get a brushless system. The 36mm inrunners at hobbycity generally aren't all that good, but you could go with an ezrun 65a esc. That wouldn't be the best, but it would be decent.
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I believe the they are both 12 turn motors. I am wanting to upgade to a brushless system., I'll be looking for one with tons of power.
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Look at a mamba max pro with a 3-4s lipo and a medusa (bang for the buck) or Neu (top of the line) motor. It will find EVERY weak part of your drivetrain and you'll get well over 50mph.
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mamba max monster 2250 motor. i doubt the rustler could handle that though. you can give those 12t's a try. it should be equivalent to the titan
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I believe the they are both 12 turn motors. I am wanting to upgade to a brushless system., I'll be looking for one with tons of power.
If the motor you are looking at is a 540 can size, then you can't use it at 12 turns. The stock XL-5 esc has a limit of 15 turns in the 540 size and 12 turns in the 550 size (which is what size the Titan is).
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A couple of comments on the previous responses:

Medusa is no longer in the motor business. If you can find them, they're good motors, but with no support.

Neu is indeed top of the line, in performance and efficiency. Expect to pay about $150-160 just for the motor. What is your budget by the way?

Mamba Max monster is designed for 1/8 scale cars & trucks and 4S LiPo. It is not a good fit for a Rustler.

The advice for a Turnigy LiPo is good, but they're out of stock at the moment. The 5000 mAh, 2S, 20C, hardcase is an exact fit for the Rustler's battery bay. The Zipply Flightpower with the same ratings is the same size, but has side exit leads instead of top. You'd have to probably cut a little slot for the battery leads if you bought that one.

As for the motor, this will do the trick:
http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...idProduct=6534

Then, search for their 60 A car speed control, the one with the fan on it. (the rest are for planes & boats)

That will take you to at least 40 mph with 2S LiPos. If you want to go faster, buy a good 3S LiPo and you're there.
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Don't know what a big block special is. Provide a link please.

I've read both good and bad about LRP stuff.
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Don't know what a big block special is. Provide a link please.

I've read both good and bad about LRP stuff.

I had a LRP eraser in my T3 and I was not impressed. It was a 9.5t and wasnt nearly as fast as I hoped it would be running on 2s lipo. It finally cooked itself a little over a week ago. I wont be getting another LRP motor.
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A couple of comments on the previous responses:

Medusa is no longer in the motor business. If you can find them, they're good motors, but with no support.

Neu is indeed top of the line, in performance and efficiency. Expect to pay about $150-160 just for the motor. What is your budget by the way?

Mamba Max monster is designed for 1/8 scale cars & trucks and 4S LiPo. It is not a good fit for a Rustler.

The advice for a Turnigy LiPo is good, but they're out of stock at the moment. The 5000 mAh, 2S, 20C, hardcase is an exact fit for the Rustler's battery bay. The Zipply Flightpower with the same ratings is the same size, but has side exit leads instead of top. You'd have to probably cut a little slot for the battery leads if you bought that one.

As for the motor, this will do the trick:
http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...idProduct=6534

Then, search for their 60 A car speed control, the one with the fan on it. (the rest are for planes & boats)

That will take you to at least 40 mph with 2S LiPos. If you want to go faster, buy a good 3S LiPo and you're there.
that motor would be great except its a 5mm shaft and unless you know where you can get some 48P 5mm pinions, or you run 32p gears

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Neu is going to start repairing and selling medusa motors.

http://www.neumotors.com/Site/Neu_Stuff!.html
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Neu is going to start repairing and selling medusa motors.

http://www.neumotors.com/Site/Neu_Stuff!.html
That is GREAT news. Neu will probably market them as their entry level line.

I'll be curious to see how performance and efficiency compares between Neu motors and Medusa.
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So it turns out the big block is a 650 not a 550 so it wont work for me. the specs for it are
Turns: 12
RPM*: 32,000
Power*: 172W
Voltage: 4.8-9.6V
Ball Bearings: Yes
Timeable & rebuidable: Yes
(*) Measured @ 7.2V

I think I'm going to order a Sidewinder 5700KV ESC & motor combo
Old 01-14-2010, 01:04 AM
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Hey guys thanks for all your help I've just ordered a Mamba Max ESC 4600KV. Anysuggestions for gearing?
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I'm not sure what gear to use. I just know from experience that you will have to gear it down. My Rustler with the Sidewinder 2700. The motor gets real hot. Probably way to hot. I have to gear it down also. Just haven't found the time.
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You can use the top speed estimator

http://www.scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/_top_speed.html

I don't know what to gear for... Maybe around 30 on 2s lipo? Someone else could chime in maybe?

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