T4 RTR wins the shootout
 

AE t4 RTR took 1st place in RC Car Action Stadium "shoot out"! Congratulations AE!!
Jim

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Did they run with the XXX-T brushless?

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NO! Results are as follows:
1st place: Team Associated T4 RS 55/60
2nd place: Traxxas Rustler 54/60 fastest!!
3rd place (tie): Team Losi Triple-XT Sport RTR II 53/60
3rd place (tie): Sportwerks Raven ST 53/60
4th place: Duratrax Evader ST 51/60
5th place: XTM Racing X-Cellerator 50.5/60

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Wow I'm proud of the evdaer for doing so well since it's the same kit (they didn't use the pro?) that won 4 years ago.

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Yeah, why is the PRO not used?! Isn't the PRO still cheaper than the T4 / XXX-T / etc.

Hardly seem fair...

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AI think they should have used the brushless XXX-T.... It's still a RTR that you buy off the shelf.

And I would like to know what they were judging... Best handling, fastest, best acceleration, best basher?

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October issue of RC Car Action states all the criteria of the "shootout". The AE T4 came in 1st place over all.

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basically it boiled down to the t4 or losi being the best racer, with like the rustler the best basher, and dont remember the other two.

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Traxxas Rusty was the fastest!! How about that!! 2nd place overall! Losi and Sportworks tied for 3rd place overall.

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man, im gald i got the t4:D

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I'm extremely happy with my Losi XXX-T... Even though it placed third, I wouldn't trade it for either of the top two finishers.

Great parts support, built very well, smooth running.. Great as a Racer and Basher.

One mans opinion.

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LOL, anyone reading RCCA, don't believe it. I know that no car magazine, or any, is as biased. They basically get paid to make a certai car the best. I know a XXX-T is a better car for a FACT, having driven it. Also, notice that RCCA didn't choose the XXX-T brushless. Why? Because it is better than the T4 rtr, and they would have gotten in trouble with traxxas and thunder tiger

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That hardly makes it a FACT. It's still just your opinion, that's all these types of "vs." discussions are, there is no concrete end all be all right answer. People can make well thought out arguments for any side, but it still all boils down to one thing, opinions, not FACT.

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I hear what you are saying and I would have loved to seen the xxx-t brushless in the shootout as much as I would have loved to see the duratrax evader pro! I believe the brushless wasn't used because of it's cost, given it is an rtr but the brushed version was already the most expensive of the lot and the brushless is another $100 premium on top of that. As for the evader I have no idea why the pro wasn't used...

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yep, like said earlier...its all a matter of opinion and personal preference. basically ae and losi are at the top of the pile...bottom line. now the differences between the two is minor and personal preference. i personally prefer my t4s and would put either one of them up againest any other stadium truck out there.

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Ok guys, let's do this. We'll all meet in Perth and put on a "Brushless ST Shootout" of our own. This RCCA shootout involved RTR, out of box and only Proline tires for all the cars. I have a T4 FT but that doesn't make Losi or Duratrax poo-poo by any means. We all KNOW which cars are the better ones 'cause we drive 'em. My idea of a GOOD car would be:
1. Strength
2. Brushless capacity
3. Handling;good shocks
4. Strong hardware; ti & al
5. Ball bearings
6. Parts availability
..........the rest is up to my driving skills.

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1 is basically only the rustler
2. so much for the evader and rustler
3 Losi, AE, and Sportwerks
4. none.
5. all but rustler
6. all but raven st

So AE and Losi win.

I want a shootout of all the highest kits against each other.
FT T4
XXX-T MF2
Evader Pro ARR


And someone besides RCCA do it.

I vote RC Driver.

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FT T4 comes with ti hinge pins and turn buckles. Plus, all screws are hardened and that's strong hardware.Right?
Jim

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4.5 points on a scale of 60 is not a lot. Don't look too much into the numbers, take things for what they are. The problem with these comparisons is that magazines tend to be biased in general. Maybe not toward any specific product, but biased towards the positive and away from the negative. A bunch of 'positive' or 'highly recommended' reviews is of no use to the discerning buyer. Yet if the magazine is too negative about any product, there goes their relationship with that vendor. And mags rely on vendors for free / early products to test and review, for advertisement, etc. And they want the industry to grow so their readership increases.

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I've got to admit seeing that kit shootout would be nice. How much is that evader pro arr? I thought it was much cheaper than the other two? Either way it would still be nice to see the top kits with the same brushless set up and high end electronics battle it out. I don't really care which magazine does it because I read most/all of them but since rc driver is IMO the best magazine I wouldn't mind seeing them do it.

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I for one am biased to associate, and now that associate has won an equal across the board shoot out, id like to see a shoot out with all having brushless in them, i am sure the results would be the same. Just a FYI i do own a mflosi and 2 rustlers, and my kids have 2 evaders.

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AE T3 won the same shoot out when it first came out in 2002. Now, T4 in 2006. Great truck!
Jim

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rcca did do one with the ft t4 and MF2(i beleve in october of 05' or 04')....the mf2 came out on top they said that the mf2 was a better race for more experianced drivers and the t4 was better suited for entry level racers. but i really dont see whay all the bickering and arguing(besides it being fun:D) teay are bothe made to race and that is what theay are good at....it comes down to personal preferance....it you gave tebo a MF2 to race after he got the haing of the truck he would be doing just as goo as he would with his t4, and same if you gave francis a t4. but in my opinion having driven both truck i prefer the mf2, but i do realy like the t4.

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the T4 rtr won the first shootout(only it and the xxx-t rtr 2) but maily because it was faster....but i would hope so seing as how it has a 15t motor and xxx-t has a 19t.

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The T4 has a 15 turn?? I know the RS edition has a 17 in it, but the RTR has a 15??