Phoenix flight sim problem with Futaba 6ex- settings
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From: Tauranga , NEW ZEALAND
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 251); ">I'm hoping someone in here can help me out re setting up my Futuba 6EX – Fasst with my Phoenix Simulator</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I am using a Futaba 6ex- 2.4 GHz 6 channel Fasst Transmitter, I am new at this and I am not well versed in the terminology for transmitters and do not know how to </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Disable the CCPM as there is nothing in the FUTABA Manuel that refers to the CCPM? Nor do I know how to set the swash setup to SINGLE SERVO or 90 DEGREES as I am not into Helicopters I only fly planes in Mode 1</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o
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></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I have carried out the set up procedure as requested but when I go to use the simulator the throttle stick controls everything ailerons, elevators, rudder and throttle all at once I cannot fix the problem.<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have contacted Phoenix they have suggested the following:</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">PHOENIX REPLY :<span> </span>From your description, you have CCPM/swashplate mixing enabled on your radio.<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Please do the following:<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Create a new, blank model memory in your radio's menu for Phoenix, set to HELI mode<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Disable CCPM mixing by setting the swash setup to SINGLE SERVO or 90 DEGREES<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Calibrate the radio using the system > your transmitter > calibrate wizard<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Collective cyclic progressive mixing<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Best Regards <o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Phoenix<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">PHOENIX REPLY:<span> </span>If you open the system > your transmitter menu from within Phoenix:<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Which bars on the display move when you move the throttle stick only? <o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Do these bars move smoothly from one extent to the other?<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Does each of the other sticks (i.e. aileron, elevator and rudder) move a red bar smoothly from one extent to the other?<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Best Regards <o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Phoenix<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">My reply as requested was<span> </span><o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">I have done as instructed in your email<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">When I move the throttle bars 3 and 4 move up and down together<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">When I move the rudder 1 and 2 bars move up and down together<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">When I move the elevator nothing moves<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">When I move the aileron nothing moves<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">I have no control at all over the aircraft<o
></o
></span></p>
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></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I have carried out the set up procedure as requested but when I go to use the simulator the throttle stick controls everything ailerons, elevators, rudder and throttle all at once I cannot fix the problem.<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have contacted Phoenix they have suggested the following:</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">PHOENIX REPLY :<span> </span>From your description, you have CCPM/swashplate mixing enabled on your radio.<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Please do the following:<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Create a new, blank model memory in your radio's menu for Phoenix, set to HELI mode<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Disable CCPM mixing by setting the swash setup to SINGLE SERVO or 90 DEGREES<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Calibrate the radio using the system > your transmitter > calibrate wizard<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Collective cyclic progressive mixing<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Best Regards <o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Phoenix<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">PHOENIX REPLY:<span> </span>If you open the system > your transmitter menu from within Phoenix:<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Which bars on the display move when you move the throttle stick only? <o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Do these bars move smoothly from one extent to the other?<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Does each of the other sticks (i.e. aileron, elevator and rudder) move a red bar smoothly from one extent to the other?<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Best Regards <o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Phoenix<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">My reply as requested was<span> </span><o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">I have done as instructed in your email<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">When I move the throttle bars 3 and 4 move up and down together<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">When I move the rudder 1 and 2 bars move up and down together<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">When I move the elevator nothing moves<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">When I move the aileron nothing moves<o
></o
></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">I have no control at all over the aircraft<o
></o
></span></p>
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I have the same transmitter as you and the phoenix sim keeps telling me that there is no interface cable hooked up. I bought an interface cable from GWS...square plug goes into transmitter and the other plug into the computer. What cable are you using? You seem to be further along than me. Ican only get the spektrum Tx that came with the phoenix sim to work but I would rather use the futaba.
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From: leatherheadSurrey, UNITED KINGDOM
I also have a futaba 6ex, but it has no ppm mode on so have no idea as to how this is going to work. I have just started in this hobbie and getting a bit long in the tooth, but the instructions seem to be for people who already know about flying aircraft or heli's, how about an idiot guide, think i will be taking phoenix back to the shop who told me my futaba will work , also purchased the square lead that they said i would need, seems as though there is a marketing error when phoenix state will work with ALL futaba Tx's



