torque rolls
 

please can anybody help me. i am trying to do a toque roll on afp, but having no joy.were am i going wrong. i can prop hang for a few mins no prolem, but cannot get it to roll.

RE: torque rolls
 

Try using your elevator to tilt the plane on it's back a little bit. Keep trying different attitiudes with the elevator and hold it there foir a bit. It will just start to roll all by itself. It does for me.

Joe

RE: torque rolls
 

tryed and tryed that bud, but still no joy.:eek: cheers

RE: torque rolls
 

I moved the CG back a couple of inches on the CAP232. It makes it a lot easier for torque rolls, elevators,and harriers. Good luck

RE: torque rolls
 

Perhaps you're keeping it from rolling with your ailerons? I'm just throwing out ideas. I'm not really that great at hovering yet but it just rolls without me even trying sometimes. BTW I'm using the stock Giles most of the time.

Joe

RE: torque rolls
 

Hello gazza111,

I don't know how long you have been flying but, You know, I was never able to TR on a sim at all, trying to learn it, so I had sold my G2 Sim. a few years ago. But, I never gave up trying to do them with the model planes. This had gone on for over maybe 5 yrs. My nephew, whom I taught how to fly at age 12, lived on the his sim. night and day and he progressed so fast, he learned flying and is now an excellent flyer and 3D pilot with 40% planes. The sim works. But again, I just kept trying with the plane. This past fall, I have finally gotten the plane to TR by not over contolling the planes and not giving up. Now that winter has arrived, I purchased the AFP SIM as I read so many good thing about it. As soon as I loaded it up and got it going, I was able to TR the sim right out of the box using the Extra 330 from the add on program. IT was what seemed to be so natural to TR.

I quess what I am trying to say is, Give the sim a chance, Fly the plane with no mods other then moving the CG back 1", but I found that that make it a little unstable. At least for me. I worked in small steps to over come different things mentally trying to TR, the major one was I kept stopping the TR with an AIL. correction, because it was not natural for me to let the plane rotate. But time was what it took, and for how realistic this sim works, I can't see how you could not learn. Just be patient. It is not going to happen over night. A friend of mine had told me that if I wanted to learn how to TR, all it would cost was $100 worth of gas and lots of practice. Well he was right, but instead of using the plane where your mistakes can cost you, use the sim for those costly mistakes. You will start to get it. I saw my nephew learn through this process, but I just wasn't into the sims at that time

One thing I must say, is I am impressed how real this AFP Sim seems to feel using my own TX. I almost feel like I am flying my plane. Not bad.

rc4flying

RE: torque rolls
 

Do this:

after pointing the plane up:

1. you'll have to keep tapping the elev. up - little bit at a time to keep the nose attitude pointing up.
2. at the same time burping the throttle to keep the plane from falling, or climbing
3. kicking the rudder to keep the nose straight...when the plane's belly is toward you...add rudder to lower wing to keep the plane straight.
4. most importantly is to make small adjustments, constantly...think of your elev, and rudder control as if you have gyros hooked to them. Don't forget to get the throttle going also. Don't expect to set the throttle at one place and the plane would stay there...you'll have to massage it to keep it there.
5. I know this sound like tapping your head, while rubbing your belling kind of act but practice, practice, practice...I got it in one night...so can you!

RE: torque rolls
 

What I have found on AFP is that the plane seems to be flying in slow motion, it is specially noticable in torque roll, seems that you have way too much time to make corrections. Comparing AFP to flying my Ultra Stick with a Saito 180 in at the flying field I have to be much quicker (at the field) putting in corrections or the plane drops out of hover or torque roll.

I have set the simulator speed to 174% to get something close to what seems normal compared to flying at the field, wonder if others have noticed this?

My computer is 1.7 Gig clock and has a good graphics board so I don't think it is the computer.

The only thing I have not explored is "frame rate", I don't know what effect it has.

Flierbk

RE: torque rolls
 

thanks for all the help folks.got a good idea too were i,m going wrong. now i,m going to get my head down to some trainning. ;) let the trainning begin....................... cheers.

RE: torque rolls
 

I don't know if this thread is still going, but I thought I would try to ask the question here since it is relevant. When I am hovering in AFP it takes full aileron for me to keep the plane from Torque Rolling...I am mostly flying the Extra 330S. I saw on a video from AeroFlyPro.Com (Maarteen de Moor with the Extra330S) had the ailerons deflected fully to hold the plane from torque rolling.

Anyone else experience this? I am just building my first giant scale, so I don't know, do the real large scale planes really have as much torque as the sim models do (settings like 40%)? I am assuming so since the Extra330S was set up by the TOC pilot who competes with it.

Thanks for your help.

RE: torque rolls
 

Try going to "edit aircraft" and under engine increase the % torque up to around 90%.That will make ur aircraft spin really fast.It will be a handfull trust me.

RE: torque rolls
 

Does anyone get G22 to TR???

I can't... tail slides took a long time to do but I can do them on G2.... And...

HAS ANYONE MADE A MAGNUM .91 FS ENGINE FOR G2 YET????