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50%plane 02-16-2006 11:21 AM

RE: planes in the works.
 
I think we can all agree on two statements here:

I appologize for acting like a child and continuing to fan the flames of a pointless war. Lets get over it and get back to flying...please?
and

Anyhow ... Rick get your butt back to modeling and that's that.
Rick, how about that Extra.;)

50%

STLPilot 02-16-2006 11:40 AM

RE: planes in the works.
 
I apoliogize to everyone as well. Let's just put it all behind us and continue to keep releasing all models for all sims. I too will help whenever it's needed. I've been in the software gig for quite some time now, well before AFPD. I wish I had time to model planes, but I would love to give assitance when needed in any form.

Also regarding the virus, it was stupid, however it was URL to a known "funny site" that's used a lot in the corporate world. I had no idea it contained a virus as it didn't show up on my end.

By the way anyone is more then welcome to model any OMP plane or FTZ plane for G3. In fact I have the original CADS avaiable from the actual plans of the models if you want to use them as a reference. The OMP planes fly amazing on AFPD and are some of the top downloaded planes of all time. The only thing I ask is you plug OMP/FTZ somehow for use either on a readme or on the model itself.

Anyway ... back to work. Have fun all!

rjm1982 02-16-2006 11:49 AM

RE: planes in the works.
 
STL, would you be willing to share the plans for the flying doghouse?

Second to the mower, thats the one i would love to have in the sim! Plus would be an easy first model to get into the sim modeling with...

50%plane 02-16-2006 11:49 AM

RE: planes in the works.
 


ORIGINAL: STLPilot

I apoliogize to everyone as well. Let's just put it all behind us and continue to keep releasing all models for all sims. I too will help whenever it's needed. I've been in the software gig for quite some time now, well before AFPD. I wish I had time to model planes, but I would love to give assitance when needed in any form.

Also regarding the virus, it was stupid, however it was URL to a known "funny site" that's used a lot in the corporate world. I had no idea it contained a virus as it didn't show up on my end.

By the way anyone is more then welcome to model any OMP plane or FTZ plane for G3. In fact I have the original CADS avaiable from the actual plans of the models if you want to use them as a reference. The OMP planes fly amazing on AFPD and are some of the top downloaded planes of all time. The only thing I ask is you plug OMP/FTZ somehow for use either on a readme or on the model itself.

Anyway ... back to work. Have fun all!
That's terrific STL. Are there any planes that you would like to see in G3 first?

GutZee 02-16-2006 11:51 AM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Good job guys! Lets hope Rick is willing to follow suit.


By the way anyone is more then welcome to model any OMP plane or FTZ plane for G3. In fact I have the original CADS avaiable from the actual plans of the models if you want to use them as a reference. The OMP planes fly amazing on AFPD and are some of the top downloaded planes of all time. The only thing I ask is you plug OMP/FTZ somehow for use either on a readme or on the model itself.
Thank you STL, that's very gracious. OMP has several I'd like to try.;)

rjm1982 02-16-2006 12:01 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Come on rick...you've been shown as reading this topic for a while now...so i know your checking it. Chime in...lets get back to having a good time...ALL OF US!

STLPilot 02-16-2006 12:10 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 

That's terrific STL. Are there any planes that you would like to see in G3 first?
It's up to you guys. Even if Rick or anyone wants to 3 view them from AFPD with skins attached he has permission as well as anyone else. Based on previous terms.

1. URL on plane (optional)
2. URL and/or company name in model description which appears on the model load page (mandatory)

3 viewing is very simple with AFPD. You just go into the model editor and create 3 views. Then wireframe around it and you already have the skins done too. The OMP 79" Yak is most popular. It's now included in the box with AFPD!

But remember guys, if you do this for any other plane for AFPD, XTR or FMS, ask permission to the modeler or owner of the copyright. You've just witnessed 1 person who has given permission. Others will too. I know not all will ... I've been down that road. When you are talking about default models for commercial sims, these are the ones that need the most attention for permission and use.

cwehner 02-16-2006 12:37 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 

ORIGINAL: Prop Nut

What is the W3 group, and why would you have had to put a copyright lawyer on retainer? No offence, its just that I have not hear of it.
We are a group of professional CG modelers and real world pilots who are creating models with and for Reflex. We have over the last 5 months or so been working closely with Reflex on new models, new software for measuring aerodynamics for sim models, and the English translation of the RSK ( scenery modeler). We are getting ready to release our new site with some great new stuff available. We have also decided to go to a pay per download system for our models. Now this will be a small price but it is neccessary for us to keep putting in the hundreds of hours a week that we have to to put out the quality of product that we do. We are not trying to get rich by any means. I own other bussinesses that do that. We simply need to pay for our time and bandwidth. We will continue to release planes for free here and there so that we still contribute in the free scense to the community. We wont release a bunch of planes for one big price where you get 10 planes you don't want and 2 that you do, but a place to buy the one plane you want without all the ones you don't. Our currnt site address is http://w3.wehner.cc/hanger.htm

I think this thread has become very inspiring. Being in the bussiness I am, it is ashame to have your work ripped off with no credit. But when someone wants to use something I've done and get my permission and give me credit, It's actually flatering. We can't lose sight of that. People copy because they like what you've done. Permission can go along way. StLPilot, you have come along way in this thread and I applaud you.

Chris
W3 Group

50%plane 02-16-2006 12:43 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Ok, it looks like there is still some work to do. STL, why are you still bashing Rick on the IPACS forums? Also, Rick has been banned it looks like and he can't post anything to help this discussion. That leads me to the thought, Why isn't STL banned as they were both involved in this war, and I was in it also.(not saying I want to be banned)

50%

STLPilot 02-16-2006 12:58 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
What IPACS forum?

Ryan Archer 02-16-2006 01:28 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
www.rc-sim.de

50%plane 02-16-2006 01:28 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Sorry about that. I thought it was an IPACS site. I just needed to look a little better. Here's the link: http://www.rc-sim.de/index_en.htm Sorry, I will repeat, It's not an IPACS forum.

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ALMA 02-16-2006 01:33 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Dion. i would thank you for you effort to defence the rights and laws from al the builders and designers here
Whitout rules and EULA'S become we a chaos , and i don't like that, if everyone play the rules goes it very well here , so simple is that!!![sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif]

rjm1982 02-16-2006 01:47 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
I agree

Though i definatly do not want to find myself banned, If there was justification to ban rick, then there was justification to ban about 5 of us, including myself and stl

50%plane 02-16-2006 02:03 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Well Dion, you have ruined Rick. Congratulations. You won't have to deal with him any more. No matter what you say, he won't believe what you say. He doesn't trust you. If you were to offer to fix his computer, and give him a public apology strait to him, maybe, but you've destroyed him. I guess you don't have to wory about any more"AFPD stuff" coming out for G3. If this is how you play the game, then, you won. If you meant what you've said in the past page here, then you'll have to make sure Rick knows it. Other than that, you won't be bothered by him ever again.

50%

Ryan Archer 02-16-2006 02:05 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
why did you ban rick. and not yourself? you wree doing mre agruing and rule braking than rick. i think stl should not be a moderator anymore if he is going to act like this.

rjm1982 02-16-2006 02:14 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
STL didnt do the banning, rcu did

If that was the case, he may have just walked away, we dont know for sure.

Ryan Archer 02-16-2006 02:18 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
ok, why did rc u ban rick? what did he do wrong. ryan[:@]

Ryan Archer 02-16-2006 02:20 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
1 Attachment(s)
here are a preview of some of tyhr color schemes i have going. ryan

rjm1982 02-16-2006 02:27 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Ryan, do you have that thing texture mapped? using an image to do that or are you using stuff from rhino to do that.

I sent you my email in a pm, send me the model whenever your're done with the main modeling part of it, I will rig it for mapping if you havent already.

STLPilot 02-16-2006 02:57 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
First off, I'm not a moderator, I'm a forum host. I only have privliages in OMP and AFPD forums and that's it. I don't have access the the moderator platform on this website. If Rick was banned I had nothing to do with it. I myself have been banned before, as an advertiser, and if Rick did do something to get himself banned all he needs to do is make an apology, because that's all I had to do, but that's out of my control.

50% you can think whatever you want. "I ruined Rick" I mean come on, he's a grown man, I did not stop Rick Delten from doing anything. You are playing into his little drama, hook, line and sinker. Also I never sent a virus, just a link to a website which I have been sent to many times from other people/emails. I guess it was a mistake and I apologize to Rick for it. But I don't believe for a second that I ruined his computer. Again, more drama play.

I'm not going to get down on my knees for Rick Delten, I said what I said and I meant what I meant.

ALMA 02-16-2006 03:00 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
50%, let ended this story now , when Rick has follows the rules , was that NEVER happend....

Thereby, my encounter whit Rick was not one of the funniest, more sarkastic, i can prove that,
he should have thougt that earlyer before!

rjm1982 02-16-2006 03:06 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
As much as I like rick, i actually agree with STL...if he doesnt come back and just hordes all of his models to himself (his right to do so if he pleases) than i would have to agree that hes just being a major drama queen...

50%plane 02-16-2006 03:18 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Rick has left RCU for good. He has left G3 for good. He is no longer making models for sims. He is getting on with his life. This is what he told me and I'm posting this now as he can't. I will be getting on with my life as well. Ryan I hope you get that D-tv done soon. I'm itchin to fly it.

50%

Oh yea, the tensors look great.

rjm1982 02-16-2006 03:35 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Well...oh well.

Im not going to feel bad for rick in that sense.

If he wants to be childish and just run away from all the people that did appreciate him because of one person that didnt, than he never really cared that much about it in the first place. Its obviously not just about this, as much as it is him proving a point and making himself feel more wanted (shown in his pulling of the planes off nemos site)

He did this before with his paint schemes...i thought he was over that childish act though, guess not. He was good, but not good enough for me or anyone else to really miss his presense all that much, there are after all, other modelers out there.

50%plane 02-16-2006 03:39 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 


ORIGINAL: STLPilot

First off, I'm not a moderator, I'm a forum host. I only have privliages in OMP and AFPD forums and that's it. I don't have access the the moderator platform on this website. If Rick was banned I had nothing to do with it. I myself have been banned before, as an advertiser, and if Rick did do something to get himself banned all he needs to do is make an apology, because that's all I had to do, but that's out of my control.

50% you can think whatever you want. "I ruined Rick" I mean come on, he's a grown man, I did not stop Rick Delten from doing anything. You are playing into his little drama, hook, line and sinker. Also I never sent a virus, just a link to a website which I have been sent to many times from other people/emails. I guess it was a mistake and I apologize to Rick for it. But I don't believe for a second that I ruined his computer. Again, more drama play.

I'm not going to get down on my knees for Rick Delten, I said what I said and I meant what I meant.
Ok then. Rick may be a drama queen. I don't know. When I posted, I was posting prettymuch what he had said or the general feeling I got from talkin with him. I'm sorry that I didn't make that clear. If what you did was right, then you have nothing to be concerned about. If what Rick did was right, then he shouldn't be concerned about anything. Let's be friends everybody.


50%, let ended this story now
WOW Alma, I can understand this part of your post. I'll agree.

STL, when can we expect an announcement form Knife edge about a FlyingthingZ.com flying lawnmower?(Spiro's a great guy, BTW)

I still think that there should be a G3 forum, but I'll let the mods decide that.

Ryan, Nemo, and everyone else making models, Keep it up[sm=thumbup.gif]

50%

STLPilot 02-16-2006 03:40 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
First off I just found out Rick Delten does not have banned status on RCU. So you've taken that bait quite well.

Second, Rick is not going anywhere. Did you just meet Rick Delten or something? This happens in phases, I don't know like quarterly or bi-annually or every so often there is a Rick Delten tragedy.

Also 50% you really need to call Knife Edge and talk to them. They've been through the exact same circles you've just witnessed over the last week on this forum. I can tell you right now if he is getting out of modeling for G3, those guys at Knife Edge will be quite pleased. I know he talked IPACS into a 3DX module and I know they are already regretting it too.

I mean he's getting on with his life? You getting on with your life? Are you guys writing a play or movie or something and this is all an act? I just can't comprehend it.

wahoo 02-16-2006 03:41 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
http://www.queendom.com/tests/minite...ama_queen.html



LOL

Rick Delten 02-16-2006 03:47 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Ok now the lie factory has brought me back into this again.

I did not refuse to pu the FTZ logo on the mower.

I am not "banned" but at this point all my posts are subject to "approval" first .

I had the planes removed from the site because STL threatened me and told me to remove them (I have the PM's where he says to remove the planes)

I did not ask for a "exporter" from IPACS they asked me if I wanted one (ask Rodeo) and I never even used the one they sent me because it is incompatible w/my version of 3DSMax (i have ver8 and its for ver7).

50%plane 02-16-2006 03:52 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 


ORIGINAL: STLPilot

First off I just found out Rick Delten does not have banned status on RCU. So you've taken that bait quite well.

Second, Rick is not going anywhere. Did you just meet Rick Delten or something? This happens in phases, I don't know like quarterly or bi-annually or every so often there is a Rick Delten tragedy.

Also 50% you really need to call Knife Edge and talk to them. They've been through the exact same circles you've just witnessed over the last week on this forum. I can tell you right now if he is getting out of modeling for G3, those guys at Knife Edge will be quite pleased. I know he talked IPACS into a 3DX module and I know they are already regretting it too.

I mean he's getting on with his life? You getting on with your life? Are you guys writing a play or movie or something and this is all an act? I just can't comprehend it.
STL, read what I posted while you were writing this. Since you have the connections, can you tell what posting status Rick is?
I did just meet Rick.

Also, Rick just asked me to ask if he can put his planes back on Nemo's site without any fuss from you. (no comment, but in light of the past alligations here, this is interesting)
I know KE hates Rick.
And I am writing a movie about you and your pathetic life arguing on RCU all day.[sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif]

(jk about all of that last part)

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STLPilot 02-16-2006 04:11 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
Rick can do whatever he wants, but if Rick wants to put the Giles and Shocky on Nemo's site then he should ask permission from IPACS, unless he changes the trim. IPACS has been trying to get in touch with him. He know's how to get in touch with them since he managned to do it for the 3D Max module for AFPD.

I have a feeling that Rick understands what he should and shouldn't do and I know others do as well. I know cwherner would not like his trim schemes taken without permission? Unless of course he doesn't mind them being used for other sims????

Anyhow ... this should be the end of it 50%. Rick is not banned and his posting privliages have a big green light, and now he's asking you to send me notes??? Rick is already telling you he wants to put the planes back up. Doesn't that just tell you that he's really not going anywhere? Rick is not going anywhere! How else to spell it out.

Rick, come back, pretty please, with sugar on top!

I should start selling popcorn and candy instead of software for RC'ers. Prolly a bigger market. Hey ... maybe some violins too!

End of Act II.

Rick Delten 02-16-2006 04:23 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
I will change the Giles scheme (to a better one) and release the planes again, no bigee. If users want my planes they should have them. Still not goingto release anyhthing new and I am only posting this because STL continues to spread lies about me.

Mudsurfer1234 02-16-2006 04:27 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
on the Drama Queen test, i got 5 out of 100, and it said

"You're as cool as cucumber. Even in touchy situations that could spark a theatrical reaction in most people, you seem to stay calm and composed. This likely stems from a rational, logical approach to life. Either that or you are just able to keep a lid on your emotions, even when you're flipping out on the inside. You are generally able to maintain perspective and see the big picture, even when the worse appears to be true. You know that freaking out before you really know what's going on results in the whole "mountains out of molehills" scenario. This is a healthy approach that allows you to cope well with most of life's trials, big and small. As long as you are not blindly optimistic to the point that you ignore trouble, you're coping very well. "

Ryan, the tensor looks great!

You going to put some details on the textures? will be confusing to tell if it's upside down or not[&:]

Rick Delten 02-16-2006 04:29 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 


ORIGINAL: Mudsurfer1234

on the Drama Queen test, i got 5 out of 100, and it said

"You're as cool as cucumber. Even in touchy situations that could spark a theatrical reaction in most people, you seem to stay calm and composed. This likely stems from a rational, logical approach to life. Either that or you are just able to keep a lid on your emotions, even when you're flipping out on the inside. You are generally able to maintain perspective and see the big picture, even when the worse appears to be true. You know that freaking out before you really know what's going on results in the whole "mountains out of molehills" scenario. This is a healthy approach that allows you to cope well with most of life's trials, big and small. As long as you are not blindly optimistic to the point that you ignore trouble, you're coping very well. "

Ryan, the tensor looks great!

You going to put some details on the textures? will be confusing to tell if it's upside down or not[&:]
Thats funny!

ALMA 02-16-2006 04:43 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
delete

Rick Delten 02-16-2006 04:45 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 


ORIGINAL: ALMA

Look Time and data ... strange????
I agree very strange indeeed for someone who "has the greenlight to post"?

rjm1982 02-16-2006 06:09 PM

RE: planes in the works.
 
You know, STL...its funny that you try to say that rick wasn't pushed out of this by u

So you threatening legal action against him or nemo for those planes was just a coincidence and didnt have anything to do with it?

You made a mountain out of a mole-hill here, you've intentionally tried to continually smear someones name, and you've made yourself and the products you pretend to represent a bad name in the process..

You couldnt even just back out of the argument without trying to get the last word, could you? piece of work...

GutZee 02-16-2006 06:25 PM

RE: [Awaiting Approval]
 
Wait a minute.. why do I keep seeing Rick Delton as the last post, then come in here and there's no post by him??? This happened earlier today as well. And now, the top of this page it says " [Awaiting Approval] . What's up with that??:eek:

rjm1982 02-16-2006 06:39 PM

RE: [Awaiting Approval]
 
Hes pretty much banned...STL says he can post, but hes monitored. Everything he posts has to be read by an admin i think, and htey have to approve it...


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