Phoenix ????
 

Anybody using the new Phoenix simulator that Horizon is selling now?

Anything to tell?

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Feeling lonelly here? No one to post? Empty forum? Why don't invite RCKen to talk togerher - you both ran anyone away from here with censoring people's posts....

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i got the one with the spektrum transmitter..it's not bad but the adapter that goes in the side goes bad quickly..it's a straight one and i talked to the guy at horizon and he said this is becoming a common problem..there's a new 90 degree one that they are shipping to me[all adapters seem to be on backorder]when it comes in..it's also in a bad place,right where your hand hits it all the time..if i would have known better,i would have gotten the one without trans..the graphics are just fine..no complaints there and the planes and choppers seem to fly about as good as any other sim..i also have realflight g5 and it of course has more features...

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With luck, more features will come with new releases. Lots of new applications sort of feel their way along, adding as they go. Special interest software is often developed by small staffs. They add stuff as they have time and see the need for it. They also get suggestions along the way and that often sets their priorities.

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Due to the increasing competition in the RC flight sim industry those who do not keep up with consumer expectations and aggressive marketing will suffer. Phoenix has been around since 2006, hardly a new application. If they release a new version of Phoenix it should be keeping up with current trends in sims like hi-res graphics, realistic physics, extreme number of aircraft, user creatable models and multiplayer features. Any sim over $150 that doesn't keep up will probably fade away. The lower priced sims already seem to have captured a niche market (RC heli users for clearview) and have their business model set for operating at that sell point and production volume.

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Yeah, I have the same problem with my adapter. I wonder if Horizon will replace them for recent buyers? I think it is a great deal to include a real radio... I like it so far.

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They're just a telephone call away. Give 'em a call and find out.

Most companies that plan to stay in business back up their products.

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yes they are sending the 90 degree adapter..it will probably be feb though at least that's what i could find out..people at horizon support are decent people and gave me no hassle whatever..if you go to their site and the phoenix sim then accessories,you can see that none are available...sigh..

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Yeah, I also got a response from them yesterday. I am glad they are addressing this issue. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f.../thumbs_up.gif

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Got one for Christmas and it is working great. The side plug does get in the way of holding. Has anyone tried to hook up a laptop to a plazma tv and fly the sim on TV? I hooked up the laptop with a vga to vga connection but I can't get it to display on the TV. Any ideas?

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If the TV has multiple connections, it might require you to direct it to that input before it will even try to output what's coming in on that connection.

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I'm having an absolute ball with mine. I reckon I've saved about $30,000 in crashed planes since I bought it. It seems pretty close to the real thing for me and at 1/2 the price of great planes g5 with all updates free, its a good thing.

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Forgot to add, when I loaded it , the first thing it done was down load all the updates (extra fields, planes ect) and have them ready for install. One of the fields is in Australia thats unusual for any software of any type to have part of OZ in it.

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ditto...I love the updates!

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Make sure your TV is on the VGA input first. From there you can either restart your computer and during the boot up it should recognize your laptop but it may make the TV your only display (laptop display will be black). Or you can go to your display properties and set up the TV as a secondary or slave monitor. This process is different depending on what operating system is on your computer. If you have any other questions PM me your operating system and I'll help you as best as I can.

Brett

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I'm really disappointed with the number of planes available from Horizon. The only reason I bought Phoenix was because I have over a dozen Parkzone, Hobbyzone and E-flite planes and none are on the Phoenix Sim. Their advertising is very misleading. I have 4 versions of Realflight and there are more Horizon planes available for it than the Horizon version of Phoenix. So far it's a waste of money.

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They have all the models for it listed on their website [link=http://www.phoenix-sim.com/models.htm]HERE[/link]

Which ones listed didn't come with it?

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The only Parkzone plane is the Corsair. There is a E-flite Dueces Wild and 4-Site. Hobbyzone has zip. I may have missed one or two but you get the picture.

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I still don't understand the part about "false advertising". When did they tell you it had more than the listed models?

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JR™ Heli, E-flite™, Blade™, Hangar 9™ and ParkZone™-all the brands you know and love are featured in this Horizon Hobby Exclusive Edition. Don't take our word for it, experience it for yourself

Misleading may be the proper term. I didn't take the time to look at each model offered after I read Horizon Hobby Exclusive Edition. I forgot that to AssUme makes an Ass out of you and me. Get off this discussion.

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A few things come to my mind.

1. Horizon just got into the partnership with Phoenix, so more probably will come, they have added 3 Horizon planes in the past few weeks (or more).

2. How do you think the program and flying compares to each other? I am wanting to know how other people feel the planes fly compared to the real life version.

3. How does it compare to RealFlight. I have both the Phoenix and an old real flight, but I have not used the updated versions of real flight.

Thanks

Jon

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None of my planes are RTFs so the only sim that had such a wide variety of planes that I could find something even close is FMS with RF G4/3.5 a close second. I mostly do slow flying scale WWI planes so FMS meets most of my needs.

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Since you are a WW1 flyer, I assume (please correct me if I am wrong) that you have Phoenix, perhaps you can help me. I want to get into WW1 planes in time, but I have been having a heck of a time landing the Sopwith Camel with out having it do a slow nose over at the end, do you have any recomendations, and does the plane fly similiar to any of your real planes?

Thanks

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I don't have Phoenix. I have hRF G4/4.5, AFDP, FS-One and Reflex. They all do reasonable simulations. FMS falls short on this aspect of training.
On the Camel and most nose heavy planes (radial engine w/ short body), the nose over is pretty common and difficult to avoid when learning. In that respect your sim is pretty accurate. If you can't land the sim without a nose over you will probably be replacing blades and cowls on the real ones until you master landings. Short grass is easier on the plane to practice landing on than pavement.

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Phoenix problems - help?

How do I get the 3D switch to work again?  It worked for a few minutes (press the "3" key) but it no longer works.  Also, the help file is useless, I just get an image, no text or anything

Yeah, I noticed right away the plug was in an awful place.  I wonder why they never figured that out, surely someone tested it?  ha ha

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Iwas having the same problem with the usb adapter that came with phoenix while using the DX5e transmitter. I have since upgraded to the DX7 transmitter from spektrum and have been using it with the simulator with no problems.

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I have a newer HP laptop that I connect to a Panasonic plasma TV using an HDMI cable. This provides really nice video with the Phoenix Sim. This requires that your laptop has an HDMI output, rather than the old VGA interface. The laptop is dual core and has 4GB Ram and running 64 bit OS, so it is a very good machine for a simulator.

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Got my replacement adapter last week and all is good. They also sent an email on how to fix the shielding issue prior to getting the replacements in stock.

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My DX5 was broken when I took it out of the box. Hooked up the DX7 and everthing is great, my son dropped the DX7 and broke the ant. I sent them both back to Horizon and they said " In the interest of good customer service we have fixed both of them for FREE". They have a lifelong customer in me. The question about using your flat screen tv to fly is easy I do it everyday. They sell RGB adapt cords at Wal Mart for about $30.00 plug it into the laptop port and the back of your tv. I leave mine hooked up to the tv so I can just hook up the laptop and go.

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Check out the on line feature- multi-player. See you at the (virtual) field!

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It seems there have been a lot of discussions about the hardware (and its problems) but how are the graphics?  How is the physics?  As good as G4/4.5/5?

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I don't have Phoenix but I have Aerofly Pro Deluxe running on my 50" TV in 1080 HD resolution. It looks awesome! I couldn't bring myself to fly on a small monitor again. The video out is provided by a Nvidia 9400GT card via component cables.

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I received the Phoenix with transmitter as a "Thank You" gift from a friend just getting into the hobby.;) I've used the Real Flight at the LHS several times and the physics and display is, as best I can remember, nearly identical. My crashes seem to end up in about the same number of pieces LOL. I strained the B-17 through a tree and the fuselage came through without the wings. Water flying isn't great but OK. I'm very thankful for such a gift, especially when I'm between jobs. Overall, I find the in-flight performance realistic.

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I got the Phoenix sim with the DX5e radio about 7 days ago. Bought it from a supplier on eBay because Horizon Hobby was out of stock. It came with the new right-angle adapter for the DX5e and everything worked perfectly right out of the box. This is my first R/C simulator but I think I made the right choice. The airplanes fly exactly as I would expect them too. The helicopters crash just as I expected they would. I will need a lot more practice to fly those choppers. Anyway, I'm very happy with this simulator. It runs on an older 2.2ghz dual core Intel system with an ATI Radeon 4650 video card with maxed out graphics at 1440x900 and those graphics are great! I don't think you can go wrong with this sim and the training videos and training aids are a big help to a newbie like me.

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I have the Parkzone Corsair and T-28. I have flown the Corsair on the Phoenix and it matches pretty well with the real plane. However, I just downloaded the T-28 and it does not behave like the real plane. It is terribly out of trim in elevator, even with full nose up trim on the controller I have to hold some up stick to keep it from nosing down. Anyone else seen this issue? It also seems very sluggish in roll, even with high rates.

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I've been flying the T28 on the Phoenix sim for 30 minutes or so every day for the last 5 days and I've had no problem with the trim. I can trim it for level flight at about 70% throttle with 3 or 4 clicks of up elevator trim. I think the roll rate is a little slow too but I've never flown the real T28. I have seen the real one fly on video and it does seems to have a faster roll rate than the sim version. I think the sim version may be a little easier to fly than the real one but I won't know for sure until I fly the real one. At this stage in my learning process it really doesn't matter because I'm learning which way to move the sticks and how much to move them to get the plane to do what I want it to do.

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this recommandation comes from a new guy into the hobby.

I bought the pheonix sim with 0 knowledge in rc airplanes. I went through the trainning models for about a week, after that i decided that am ready to fly the reall thing. i went own and bought my first plane which is hangar-9 alpha 40 dsm2 rtf. Took it to the field as soon as i finishin building it. gassed it up and boom on the skiies. To tell you how much i learned from that simulator, the guys on te field cant believe that this is my frist time ever to fly an rc airplane.

i have not tried other simulators softwares, but for this one i give it 5/5. graphic wise it shocking but i dont know how would it run on an ordinally pc since mine is a quad core with 1 gb video card. reiallity i give it a 95% simillarity ( 5% goes to the factor that its not ur own plane where i won't risk it and drive it to the edge in reiallity)

 after being in the hobby for less than a month i moved from using the sim to originally learn how to fly to flying futnana 90


good job developers and keep it up

P.S: sorry for the spelling and the writing if its bad

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I have a Phoenix Sim and I really love it. I am a beginner on this RC, will someone tell me how to get rid of those shadows around the heli or plane it just making me confused everytime I play with this sim....I try to attach the picture how it look like but I'm having a hard time to attach it. But I think I can send it to regular e-mail.......Thanks.

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ray , if you ever want to sel it, i live in boonville. pm me.