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Stupid question about battey packs...
Connecting two 6volt 2200mah with a normal Y-cable "servo-cable" so they are parallel connected to one output, to get 4400mah would work, right ? i can not see why it shouldn't work [sm=confused.gif]
But would it be best to charge them separate ? they have about 1100mah fast charge each i think. These battpacks are ok, but i want better.
Just thinking of doing this until i get my cells so i can build my own bigger single battery packs for rx, non AA cells
But would it be best to charge them separate ? they have about 1100mah fast charge each i think. These battpacks are ok, but i want better.
Just thinking of doing this until i get my cells so i can build my own bigger single battery packs for rx, non AA cells
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
there AA ????
should be ok short term but watch the voltages of the pack. to much diffrence and one will bleed into the other. not good on normal servo cable
should be ok short term but watch the voltages of the pack. to much diffrence and one will bleed into the other. not good on normal servo cable
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
What I'm going to connect is two identical 6volt 2200mah battery packs (parallelmode), with a Y-cable (Y-servocable) to one output of 6volt and 4400mah, should be no problem if the packs are identical.. the same make and model ?
There shouldn't be more current going trough the cables then with one single battery pack, only thing is that it would last much longer, or am i wrong on that ? It sound so simple anyways
There shouldn't be more current going trough the cables then with one single battery pack, only thing is that it would last much longer, or am i wrong on that ? It sound so simple anyways
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
I got a 4500mah pack from http://www.onlybatterypacks.com/. nice high quality stuff.
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
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I got a 4500mah pack from http://www.onlybatterypacks.com/. nice high quality stuff.
I got a 4500mah pack from http://www.onlybatterypacks.com/. nice high quality stuff.
They must be "C" size cells then? Think the biggest "Sub C" is 3600Mah?
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
personally i use the 6 volt battery backups for emergency light. comes already fully enclosed. the bonus part is that its a cheaper over all price per amp than single batteries.
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
the packs are to be joined positive to positive so it doubles the mah rating and not positive to negative to make 12 volts.
the onlyway you would get the packs spot on would be if they were all matched cells.
you should be ok using them as 2200mah packs just charge before use and take the spare (i take it you've got voltage sensitive failsafe ?)
the one i had to buy whist radio problem solving is a carson pack and thats only 1500mah sub c cels, and that last a run
the onlyway you would get the packs spot on would be if they were all matched cells.
you should be ok using them as 2200mah packs just charge before use and take the spare (i take it you've got voltage sensitive failsafe ?)
the one i had to buy whist radio problem solving is a carson pack and thats only 1500mah sub c cels, and that last a run
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
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They must be "C" size cells then? Think the biggest "Sub C" is 3600Mah?
ORIGINAL: geniusgene
I got a 4500mah pack from http://www.onlybatterypacks.com/. nice high quality stuff.
I got a 4500mah pack from http://www.onlybatterypacks.com/. nice high quality stuff.
They must be "C" size cells then? Think the biggest "Sub C" is 3600Mah?
Yes they are C cells. I just had to grind an 1/8'' of each side of the batteryslot and it it dropped right in. The run time is fantastic and having 1 extra pound positioned foward of center helps keeep the nose down too.
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
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Yes they are C cells. I just had to grind an 1/8'' of each side of the batteryslot and it it dropped right in. The run time is fantastic and having 1 extra pound positioned foward of center helps keeep the nose down too.
ORIGINAL: FGUK
They must be "C" size cells then? Think the biggest "Sub C" is 3600Mah?
ORIGINAL: geniusgene
I got a 4500mah pack from http://www.onlybatterypacks.com/. nice high quality stuff.
I got a 4500mah pack from http://www.onlybatterypacks.com/. nice high quality stuff.
They must be "C" size cells then? Think the biggest "Sub C" is 3600Mah?
Yes they are C cells. I just had to grind an 1/8'' of each side of the batteryslot and it it dropped right in. The run time is fantastic and having 1 extra pound positioned foward of center helps keeep the nose down too.
Am just off to look on ebay for some C cells right now!
Thanks!.
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
I will get those i think it's C-cell's, but they are not in stock right now. In the meantime i thought of connecting these two identical battery packs i have to make a longer lasting battery, and connecting them parallel using a Y servo-cable was a simple and functional idea i thought, to work with until i get my bigger cells to make my own battery pack
Those packs i have that i want to connect together parallel is: Dynomax Radio NI-MH A2200-6v, they are probably not the best, but they worked fine so far.
ibstar, my 2200mah pack last's me about 2 tanks in the cold with my old setup of servos... not that good, i want at least 4tanks without recharging those batteries.
I'm using the built in failsafe on my hrs 3pk, is that a good choice, is it reliable or not ? seams to work good though.
Thanks for the info so far !!!
Those packs i have that i want to connect together parallel is: Dynomax Radio NI-MH A2200-6v, they are probably not the best, but they worked fine so far.
ibstar, my 2200mah pack last's me about 2 tanks in the cold with my old setup of servos... not that good, i want at least 4tanks without recharging those batteries.
I'm using the built in failsafe on my hrs 3pk, is that a good choice, is it reliable or not ? seams to work good though.
Thanks for the info so far !!!
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yeap should be fine
how do you manage to stand out in the cold for 4 tanks
i manage about 15 minutes here before i can't feel my hands and feet
how do you manage to stand out in the cold for 4 tanks
i manage about 15 minutes here before i can't feel my hands and feet
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
connecting your two packs up in parallel will work ok but only connect them together when your about to use them.
In a perfect world those two packs would have an identical voltage when fully charged but unless they are a matched pair, when you connect them together the pack with the higher voltage will try to "charge " the one with the lower voltage. if there is not much much difference between the two you wont have a problem but if one pack has a dodgy cell it could get ugly "smoke,melted plastic etc"
I would not do it in my opinion these machines are too expensive risk turning them into a puddle of melted plastic.
why dont you just change packs when you refuel should only take an extra minute
just my two bob's worth
In a perfect world those two packs would have an identical voltage when fully charged but unless they are a matched pair, when you connect them together the pack with the higher voltage will try to "charge " the one with the lower voltage. if there is not much much difference between the two you wont have a problem but if one pack has a dodgy cell it could get ugly "smoke,melted plastic etc"
I would not do it in my opinion these machines are too expensive risk turning them into a puddle of melted plastic.
why dont you just change packs when you refuel should only take an extra minute
just my two bob's worth
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
you could install a battery isolation switch, it stops the batteries from swapping voltage and you can set it to drain 1 and than flip the switch to drain the other.
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
Practice ibstar, practice [sm=lol.gif] when I'm in the end of second tank i feel the longing for the fireplace if it's real cold outside [&:] But if it's your normal cold winter weather, then it's no big problems... only some big ice on the carburetor idle, and packed snow around the servos
Hope my 3300mah big cell's comes soon, i think they will be sufficient for me, i cant find any bigger here in Sweden.. don't know if there are any not to big cell's with bigger mah [sm=confused.gif]
geniusgene, you got pm
Hope my 3300mah big cell's comes soon, i think they will be sufficient for me, i cant find any bigger here in Sweden.. don't know if there are any not to big cell's with bigger mah [sm=confused.gif]
geniusgene, you got pm
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
or this lol
6 Volt 10 / 12 Ah Battery
Details
Height = 94 mm
Width = 51 mm
Length = 151 mm
Weight = 2090 grams
Price:
£12.00
6 Volt 10 / 12 Ah Battery
Details
Height = 94 mm
Width = 51 mm
Length = 151 mm
Weight = 2090 grams
Price:
£12.00
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
ibstar, i do think that would be a little bit to much [sm=lol.gif]
pehter, they do look very ok to me, maybe i get those or 3300mah here from Sweden.. hmmm, how long does it take before i have those battery's do you think ? with !QUOT!normal!QUOT! shipping, not to expensive, not to cheap... because i want it this year
pehter, they do look very ok to me, maybe i get those or 3300mah here from Sweden.. hmmm, how long does it take before i have those battery's do you think ? with !QUOT!normal!QUOT! shipping, not to expensive, not to cheap... because i want it this year
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
Automan71, try searching http://www.ebay.de for batteries, they have several sellers, and at very low prices.
I have seen 2600mah AA cells as low as 1,20 Euro each.
I bought 6 3300 Mah Sub-C Cells with soldering taps, but don't remember the price, except that it was quite cheap.
I have seen Sub C cells advertised at 4000 Mah capacity, and C cells at 5000 Mah, D Cells at 10000Mah
I have seen 2600mah AA cells as low as 1,20 Euro each.
I bought 6 3300 Mah Sub-C Cells with soldering taps, but don't remember the price, except that it was quite cheap.
I have seen Sub C cells advertised at 4000 Mah capacity, and C cells at 5000 Mah, D Cells at 10000Mah
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
Thanks everyone !!!
pehter, that time sounds ok to me for that price, but i think it's best to order a little bit more cells over there to take real benefit of those prices
JRexA, thanks for the advice, i will look into that and see if i can find any good deals there.
But in the meantime i will just connect together these two battpacks i have and wait for my new nice cell's to arrive so i can start using them instead
pehter, that time sounds ok to me for that price, but i think it's best to order a little bit more cells over there to take real benefit of those prices
JRexA, thanks for the advice, i will look into that and see if i can find any good deals there.
But in the meantime i will just connect together these two battpacks i have and wait for my new nice cell's to arrive so i can start using them instead
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RE: Stupid question about battey packs...
Automan, I've been looking for that switch and cant find it. I no I saw it, so either im going insane or it's not made anymore.