yamanube

I have been throwing around the idea of getting a 1/5th scale buggy or truck but not sure that its a good investment for me. I am looking at either the HPI Baja 5b or the Redcat. I dont drive a ton (maybe once a week) but when I do I am really hard on them and pretty much break everytime I drive (that is why I only do it once a week ) I have had a few nitro stadium trucks and now a 1/10 scale redcat buggy and a T-Maxx. When I do drive its normally trashing around construction sites WOT everywhere and launching off anything I can find, sometimes high speed runs down the street and up curbs and stuff. I wouldnt want to toss $1k into a 1/5th and either be dissapointed by the performance (out of the box) or end up breaking expensive parts everytime I run it when I could stick with a T-Maxx and find parts easier and cheaper. Which would be better suited to my driving?

savagecommander

in my opinion, you jump the baja, you break the baja. 22+ pounds is tricky to land and not end up needing fixing. i say stick to the 1/8 scale and jump all day

frumpy

I would have to disagree with that yamanube,check this out

http://media.putfile.com/HPI-Baja-in-utah-sand-dunes

And then these
1. HPI Baja jumps: http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video....bb1cc0d43d382a
2. HPI Baja: http://images.domino.org/d/70043-1/B...l+vid+size.wmv
3. HPI Baja: http://www.rcnutshobbies.com/bajajump2.wmv
4. HPI Baja: http://www.rcnutshobbies.com/jumps.wmv
5. HPI Baja: http://files.filefront.com/bajafebwm.../fileinfo.html
6. HPI Baja: http://www.blacksheepraceway.com/files/5641.wmv
7. HPI Baja: http://hpiracing.com/kitvideos/all.html
8. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcX400JC1AU
9. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6nAxsy5FwU
10. HPI Baja: http://www.hpiracing.com/movies/baja_dumont_dunes.wmv
11. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja5b-on-a-track
12. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja-Hill-Climbing-Volume-I
13. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja-Hill-Climbing-Volume-II
14. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja-5B
15. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja-Bash-3-Perth-WA
16. HPI Baja: http://www.apartment107.com/assets/v...log/blog01.wmv
17. HPI Baja onboard cam: http://members.cox.net/el.turdarino/...2006-06-17.avi
18. HPI Baja: www.gerrish.net/orcc/baja2.wmv
19. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja2-16
20. HPI Baja: http://www.gerrish.net/orcc/baja1.wmv
21. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/HPI-Baja-5B-Perth-WA
22. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Bajas-First-Bash
23. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-LS-22Xj4
24. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/HPI-Baja-305cc-part-two
25. HPI Baja: http://www.media.putfile.com/HPI-Baj...d-kit-and-pipe
26. HPI Baja w/new pipe: http://www.oneillbrothers.com/rccar/...etpro_baja.wmv
27. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5pvMLK4hm8
28. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsOgJ...elated&search=
29. HPI Baha: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12333025&hl=en
30. HPI Baja: http://www.hpiracing.com/movies/thunder5b.mov
31. HPI Baja: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...03170483&hl=en
32. HPI Baja: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9108&q=baja+5b
33. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/BMX-Baja-Onboard-Cam
34. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja-Cam
35. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/HPI-Baja-in-utah-sand-dunes
36. HPI Baja: http://crispycrittershobbyshop.com/V...mashedbaja.wmv
37. HPI Baja: http://www.oneillbrothers.com/rccar/...etpro_baja.wmv
38. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R899-Y-Pkr8
39. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFWAr90PRdA
40. HPI Baja: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...52002717&hl=en
41. HPI Baja: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...03170483&hl=en
42. HPI Baja: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...03170483&hl=en
43. HPI Baja: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...46150951&hl=en
44. HPI Baja on Track: http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video....665453cfb2e55f
45. HPI Baja & Xcan: http://media.putfile.com/Baja-runs
46. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja-Bash-October-1-2006
47. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja-offroad-fun
48. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja-5b-gravel-
49. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/v/2JyHpT-TqQQ
50. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/v/fMGR2Q5uwgs
51. HPI Baja & Fg's: http://media.putfile.com/Juletr-f-i-grusgraven
52. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Baja-Christmas-Bash-2006
53. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQnKKduBPBo
54. HPI Baja: http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video....badae65e07876a
55. HPI Baja: http://nitrobashers.com/Video/dunebash1.wmv
56. HPI&FG: http://media.putfile.com/Hedeland-offroad-race
57. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/nogrip
58. HPI Baja w/TGN pipe: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...80746346&hl=en
59. HPI Baja w/TGN pipe: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62859060&hl=en
60. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-X-Q9sv9is
61. HPI Baja DDM Pipe: http://www.gsairwerx.com/images/ddmpipetest.wmv
62. HPI Baja jumps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZtsdNTEXRY
63. HPI Baja Private Collection: http://www.blueradargun.com/Ben/
64. HPI Baja, Marder: http://media.putfile.com/Reapy01s-Baja-63
65. HPI Baja: http://media.putfile.com/Bajas-First-Jumps
66. HPI Baja, MCD: http://www.dailymotion.com/littlebear13/video/2275079
67. HPI Baja: 120mi: http://videos.*********.ca/video/17f...f100d703de.htm
68. HPI Baja: www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHvmb3YMkLs
69. HPI Baja w/pipe: http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?...&pageOffset=10
70. HPI Baja: http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video....e63c663e1159bf
71. HPI Baja: http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...v?t=1167540338
72. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2er3Uciu7Es
73. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atFaKf8XQQE
74. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koSgAjJKLW4
75. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBnm_...elated&search=
76. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6Us...elated&search=
77. HPI Baja: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...18261740850196
78. HPI Baja: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...66646124&hl=en
79. HPI Baja: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...23502853&hl=en
80. HPI Baja: http://www.snutter.no/app/viewMovie.action?id=3231
81. HPI Baja: http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n...newbaja002.flv
82. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAtfTGnHXHs
83. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMVZtK5I2yw
84. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SteoWF1g3Y
85. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqvjyWtkosI
86. HPI Baja: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...41355717&hl=en
87. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAR2frNrdd4
88. HPI Baja: http://www.snutter.no/app/viewMovie.action?id=4311
89. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agb72A4KaUU
90. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwOi1wEIIBg
91. HPI Baja: http://s134.photobucket.com/albums/q...udebashing.flv
92. HPI Baja: http://s134.photobucket.com/albums/q...rent=Movie.flv
93. HPI Baja Bash 2007: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrqhQ...15&post_id=609
94. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMroYWXfuJo
95. HPI Baja w/reverse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wzkTbbEbe0
96. Bass hill Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBDM72_yRp0
97. Red Hot Bass Hill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydJUnbS5d9k
98. HPI Baja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScpY-QmsTlM
99. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt5L8Y7je_8
100. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YepxQzxbDLc
101. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CPeZ60thkE
102. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trZY7XialLM

(30) FG Monster Truck

Kemo

If you do get one, we need to meet up and find a bashing spot!

kryptonite5b

My Feedback: (-2)

that was histerical frumpy!!!! so 5th scale isnt for every one. the only people its not for, is people that havent tried it. i was into nitro's big time for many many years. cant believe that i wasted soo much money on it. as far as parts go. if you look at it in in whole, it is cheaper. check out stock parts for an hpi 5b campared to your t-max.. there about the same. $5-$15 average. jumping a large scale takes a little practice, but once you get it, its like riding a bike.. very easy. its simply a diffrent throttle aproach then with the nitro's. if your a basher, then youl love the 45minute run times. AND NO TUNING!!!. how many times has your nitro been a snot to start? that doesnt happen with the 2 strokes. 3 pulls and your shoot'in 15 foot roosters!! even after a motor has many gallons on it.. they really last along time(motors). and ya. they way about 23 pounds,but there also 2 inches shy of 3 feet long!! so when it hits something its gana hurt. but check out those vids. they speak for themself. the 5b is one tuff rig. unlike purchasing a used nitro, for some reason buying a used fifth scale is alot safer. i think its mainly do to the motors, and most of them are adult owned. check them out. mines in the market place right now. bottom line is, there is nothing like driving a fifth scale. nothing like it at all. this is probly as close as you can get to the real thing.

badz

My Feedback: (1)

if you aren't budget minded then grab a gaser...if you are then stay away.....they are like every other rc they need some cash tossed at them here and there....as far as jumping them around all day the hpi baja can handle it as much as a tmaxx can...tmaxx is pretty prone to breakage unless really beefed up so you're used to changing parts on it.....you won't break near as much on a baja....if you're doing backflips and 25' jumps constantly it's cheaper to own a savage or revo they hold up 1000 times better than the tmaxx....the baja won't fair well at backflips since it's almost impossible to control in the air and it won't take 25' jumps for long on hard pack surfaces without some hopups....don't agree with the tuning thing since a well tuned nitro doesn't need tweaks constantly as most people assume...its the improperly tuned nitro needs tweaks constantly...gaser definetly wins in awe factor,power,torque and run time and engine durability

Miami Jato

so true, so true, kryptonite....................

Ron E

sold all 5 nitro trucks, the 4 electric trucks sit on the shelf now... i just bought a redcat rampage mt5 and i cant believe how cool 5th scale cars and trucks are. best rc purchase ever. huge, fast and very tough.

PAPE

I had just what you say happen to me I used to be verry agresive with my nitro off roads all though they wouldent brake every time I ran them. After I got my FG monster I realised Its a lot more fragile that the tmaxx and savage. If you jump them you have to land them on all 4r's. you have to be carfull not to have the car tumble or cartwheel on its tires. but I really like to run a large scale more that the 10th. you feel your moving more weight the second you start runing it for the same time.

and you do have to upgrade the cars for more power they all are really slugish specialy of the line both the baja and the redcat bog off the line (stock)

yamanube

That is kind of what I was afraid of, I was also looking at the Firehammer MT and watching videos on the net and it seems like smaller jumps and ripping around is fine but they dont handle huge jumps well. I do good for a little while just ripping around and hitting small jumps but after a while I get bored and try jumping over cars or across driveways and I think if I sunk $1000 into a 1/5 scale and the next week cartwheeled it for 75' breaking a bunch of parts I would be dissapointed....maybe Ill try and get one and keep my Maxx for bashing.

PAPE

to be honest most poeple here do not really abuse their 1/5th scale cars. They might say they do but its not true. I know the kind of bashing your talking about.

"your in the middle of a construction site, see a big sand pile and you dont mesure or nothing you just drive your truck as far as possible turn around and hit the sand pile at full speed, ohh no run the truck is upside down its going to shut off, you flip it back on its wheels and go for the jump again."

You really cant do this with a big 30 pound car, it will distroy its self.

Now if you can take it easy you will be rewarded with a largescale car that you will really enjoy but again you will have to hop it up a bit, trust me you will be verry disapointed with the sluggish acceleration these car bring stock.

Does any one have a video of a stock Baja?
also a video of hard bashing?

frumpy

Pape do you even own a 1/5 scale?I don't think you so with some of these statements you've made

part-time

My Feedback: (1)

the baja and the firehammer are not even in the same class. the baja jumps very well. the firehammer is ok. the main reason u will be putting xtra money in a baja is all the cool new parts that come out. if u already have an fm or dsm radio get the ss. if u wont to see some BIG AIR check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75vqYIWLBXk

JQuest64

yamanube, you sound a lot like me when it comes top your driving habits.

I beat the hell out of my FS and have a lot of fun doing it.
Has anyone mentioned the downside to this at this scale??

It can get expensive!! Especially for a driver like myself (and for you it would seem).

You can definitely beat these things, you will just need spare parts on hand, and a wallet that can handle ordering replacement parts.
My bash sessions very rarely end with my rig running the way it did when we arrived. I will bend, strip, break or in some other way disable my truck. I love the tear downs and rebuilds. I love trying to find a way to make something more reliable.
Eventually you will bulletproof certain areas and realize, just like with a nitro, what to leave for the weak link.

If that sounds like something you might be into and can spare the extra cash, go for it.

Foxy

The HPI Baja does not jump well. It jumps better than most large scales though. There's a real technique to jumping the big boys, as I have discovered recently.

PAPE, stock baja, hard bashing? You got it.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KYlOMn-hF8

fourwheeler

Ok well how about this one??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvLSt...eature=related

PAPE

The guys on them videos are verry lucky. I wouldent even think of driving my FG that hard, mine always brakes some thing and to be honest I have about 15 tanks on my FG. only 3 of those were run empty, the others all stope early because of a faliure.

wan6176

thumbs up baja.