Running a Sim on a Mac. Put to rest...
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Running a Sim on a Mac. Put to rest...
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Reading over and over, users of this forum are asking about Sims on the Mac. Instead of rolling my eyes every time, it's time to pay my dues and solve this once and for all. I'm new to flying RC Heli's but I've been using computers for 30 years. If you own a Mac, please read this carefully to avoid waisting time and money.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">You have 3 options (to keep it simple)</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Option 1</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Mac Software</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">$100 to $140</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Try out AeroFly. This is a nice looking simulator with amazing graphics and it comes with a controller. Bare in mind though, the creators of the RealFlight software have WAY more experience with computer simulators, and even though I hate Windows, I decided to use RealFlight Basic on my Mac just for this reason. I want to make sure I have the most accurate results. Now, I have never used AeroFly but I am sure it’s a great sim, this is just my opinion. All the Hobby Shops -that I know of- do not carry Aerofly so you may need to order it. However, some Hobby Shops have a demo of RealFlight you can just walk in and try out.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">>> www.aerofly.com</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">There are more Sims for the Mac coming out of the wood work so please keep a look out. Aerofly is just popular, at the time of writing this. Since Apple has REALLY stepped up their game in the last 5 years, more and more people have Macs now. Software companies will catch on. Keep in mind that Apple wasn’t always popular as it is now and some simulators like RealFlight have been coded for Windows for a whole decade now, this means a Mac version would have to be created from scratch. They can’t just make it work. It has to be rebuilt. I am anticipating they will make/release a basic Mac version in the future.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Option 2</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Mac with Windows Installed</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">$99 to $400~</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">I see users throw around the word “Bootcamp” as in “That’s all you need to run it! ”. This is a big error. Typically something a PC user would say. As a matter of fact, just the other day I was at the LHS and some kid there was giving advice to a customer. The words blurted out “Just use Bootcamp and it will work on the Mac”. I said absolutely nothing, and soon walked out.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Bootcamp is a free utility, and it “assists” you when installing and running Windows on an Intel Mac. That’s all. Nothing more. It will not allow you to run a simulator or any Windows program.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">If you want to run big Windows applications and games (smooth with no troubles) on a Mac, then you MUST go out and buy a copy of Microsoft Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows 7. Ebay is recommended, long as it’s unregistered or unopened. I’m using an old copy of Windows Vista.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Then, following the instructions with Boot Camp. There are plenty of YouTube videos on this subject. Having your copy of Windows ready, proceed with the installation and partition procedure. If you are just getting started with computers, please find someone to help you with your Mac to make sure you install it right. You can erase your internal harddrive and cause other problems if you are not careful. Also bare in mind you will have several updates to install from Microsoft (if you choose to install them) when you get Windows up and running. This is a long process. Installing Windows on a Mac can take an hour to 3 hours. Make sure you install the extra bootcamp drivers that are contained on your original Mac installation disk. These drivers will help you with connecting to the internet via Wi-fi (if you have Airport) so you can start downloading Windows updates. You’ll hate Windows but at least you can run the Sim!</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">After this, do not forget about the Option key on your keyboard. You must hold this key down when restarting your Mac. Make sure to hold it down before you see the gray screen. You will see a small interface popup which allows you boot using your Mac HD or Windows partition.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">As for a Sim. My opinion. If you just want to learn how to fly (with no bells and whistles) then I HIGHLY recommend buying RealFlight Basic $99. This is all you need and will save you $100. Then you can spend the rest on a copy of Windows. Ask the LHS if they have the Basic version. I will be training on this all Winter. The graphics are great!</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">FYI. There is a little software program called Crossover by codeweavers.com. This allows you to run a Windows program on a Mac without a copy of Windows. However many people are having trouble getting it to work with RealFlight, commonly with getting the USB controller to connect properly. It's really only practical for smaller apps. If anyone has a solution, let me know.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Option 3</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Pond Shop</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">$150+ with Sim.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Go by a cheap PC Laptop with Windows already installed (Ebay/Pond Shop) $100~, then buy a Simulator and install it.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Unfortunately I am not able to provide any advice on what to explain to your spouse when performing any of the above. Although I do find my self saying a lot “This is not a video game, I’m learning how to fly a helicopter!”</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">-Clank</span></div></div>
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">You have 3 options (to keep it simple)</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Option 1</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Mac Software</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">$100 to $140</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Try out AeroFly. This is a nice looking simulator with amazing graphics and it comes with a controller. Bare in mind though, the creators of the RealFlight software have WAY more experience with computer simulators, and even though I hate Windows, I decided to use RealFlight Basic on my Mac just for this reason. I want to make sure I have the most accurate results. Now, I have never used AeroFly but I am sure it’s a great sim, this is just my opinion. All the Hobby Shops -that I know of- do not carry Aerofly so you may need to order it. However, some Hobby Shops have a demo of RealFlight you can just walk in and try out.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">>> www.aerofly.com</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">There are more Sims for the Mac coming out of the wood work so please keep a look out. Aerofly is just popular, at the time of writing this. Since Apple has REALLY stepped up their game in the last 5 years, more and more people have Macs now. Software companies will catch on. Keep in mind that Apple wasn’t always popular as it is now and some simulators like RealFlight have been coded for Windows for a whole decade now, this means a Mac version would have to be created from scratch. They can’t just make it work. It has to be rebuilt. I am anticipating they will make/release a basic Mac version in the future.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Option 2</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Mac with Windows Installed</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">$99 to $400~</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">I see users throw around the word “Bootcamp” as in “That’s all you need to run it! ”. This is a big error. Typically something a PC user would say. As a matter of fact, just the other day I was at the LHS and some kid there was giving advice to a customer. The words blurted out “Just use Bootcamp and it will work on the Mac”. I said absolutely nothing, and soon walked out.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Bootcamp is a free utility, and it “assists” you when installing and running Windows on an Intel Mac. That’s all. Nothing more. It will not allow you to run a simulator or any Windows program.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">If you want to run big Windows applications and games (smooth with no troubles) on a Mac, then you MUST go out and buy a copy of Microsoft Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows 7. Ebay is recommended, long as it’s unregistered or unopened. I’m using an old copy of Windows Vista.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Then, following the instructions with Boot Camp. There are plenty of YouTube videos on this subject. Having your copy of Windows ready, proceed with the installation and partition procedure. If you are just getting started with computers, please find someone to help you with your Mac to make sure you install it right. You can erase your internal harddrive and cause other problems if you are not careful. Also bare in mind you will have several updates to install from Microsoft (if you choose to install them) when you get Windows up and running. This is a long process. Installing Windows on a Mac can take an hour to 3 hours. Make sure you install the extra bootcamp drivers that are contained on your original Mac installation disk. These drivers will help you with connecting to the internet via Wi-fi (if you have Airport) so you can start downloading Windows updates. You’ll hate Windows but at least you can run the Sim!</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">After this, do not forget about the Option key on your keyboard. You must hold this key down when restarting your Mac. Make sure to hold it down before you see the gray screen. You will see a small interface popup which allows you boot using your Mac HD or Windows partition.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">As for a Sim. My opinion. If you just want to learn how to fly (with no bells and whistles) then I HIGHLY recommend buying RealFlight Basic $99. This is all you need and will save you $100. Then you can spend the rest on a copy of Windows. Ask the LHS if they have the Basic version. I will be training on this all Winter. The graphics are great!</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">FYI. There is a little software program called Crossover by codeweavers.com. This allows you to run a Windows program on a Mac without a copy of Windows. However many people are having trouble getting it to work with RealFlight, commonly with getting the USB controller to connect properly. It's really only practical for smaller apps. If anyone has a solution, let me know.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Option 3</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Pond Shop</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">$150+ with Sim.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Go by a cheap PC Laptop with Windows already installed (Ebay/Pond Shop) $100~, then buy a Simulator and install it.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">Unfortunately I am not able to provide any advice on what to explain to your spouse when performing any of the above. Although I do find my self saying a lot “This is not a video game, I’m learning how to fly a helicopter!”</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">
</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-color: transparent; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Arial; ">-Clank</span></div></div>
