Maiden hover attempt?
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Hey All,
Newbi here, I have flown the sim now for about 3 weeks and have tail in hover mastered. So I thought I'd go for my maiden hover with my new Feda Dragonfly. Well as you might expect it didn't go to well. Get it light on skids and control yaw; then Heli wants to jump to the right. In the sim the heli drift left. No major crashes or anything but how do I keep it from jumping right? Is it in my radio settings? Thanks for your help.
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Newbi here, I have flown the sim now for about 3 weeks and have tail in hover mastered. So I thought I'd go for my maiden hover with my new Feda Dragonfly. Well as you might expect it didn't go to well. Get it light on skids and control yaw; then Heli wants to jump to the right. In the sim the heli drift left. No major crashes or anything but how do I keep it from jumping right? Is it in my radio settings? Thanks for your help.
Feedback is very welcome please
Thank you
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From: DSDS, AK, ANGOLA
it took me about 3 weeks to master a steady hoover, it's trial and error and lots of trimming. when you have it trimmed right and balanced (this is important) you'll have less stick movement to worry about. I can fly mine in a 10 x 10 room full pack now.
hang in there and good luck
dg
hang in there and good luck
dg
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Lift it up with the fly-bar an move the battery untill the struts are parralel with the ground,
Its drifts to the right! my heli is a hummingbird and yours is a clone their almost identicle but mine drifts to the left
good luck i started out at your level 4 days ago with no previous experience and no simulator and ive just managed to hover for a full-pack
Some advise: when the heli drifts off is easyer to move the stick a little bit and hold it there untill the heli moves
You do know about the ground-affect, right?
Its drifts to the right! my heli is a hummingbird and yours is a clone their almost identicle but mine drifts to the left
good luck i started out at your level 4 days ago with no previous experience and no simulator and ive just managed to hover for a full-pack

Some advise: when the heli drifts off is easyer to move the stick a little bit and hold it there untill the heli moves
You do know about the ground-affect, right?
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Basicly if you are under abour 2ft altitude helis get bad turbulance, it usually results in the heli hugging the ground and sliding off everywhere like a hovercraft (i think americans call them air boats) so to get the heli to fly easyly you have to fly it above about 2ft
which is a problem - its scary to fly that high when you arnt experienced, but it does get much easyer when your out of it so helis might not be as hard as you think after your first few flights
which is a problem - its scary to fly that high when you arnt experienced, but it does get much easyer when your out of it so helis might not be as hard as you think after your first few flights
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WOW; Now that is some great info. Thanks alot. Looks like I'm grounded for a few days. lol Main blade got tangled with the TX antenna and cut it in half and broke a cyclic connector.
Man am I good or what. Oh well; I know it's part of the hobby. Again thanks for the help. Any additional information is very welcome. Thanks again!
Man am I good or what. Oh well; I know it's part of the hobby. Again thanks for the help. Any additional information is very welcome. Thanks again!
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This post by -pkh- on the 'Nose-in hard to master' (or something like that) thread, helped me alot:
ORIGINAL: -pkh-
Practice until you get so that nose-in is "automatic" for you in the sim (i.e. you don't have to think about the controls very much), then turn the wind on in your sim, say 10mph wind with 20mph gusts, and practice that until that's automatic. Once you get that, you should be pretty well prepared... although nerves can get the better of you sometimes when you're doing it in real life! Without wind, you can usually provide the wrong control input and correct it without getting into trouble, but when it's gusty, you have to provide the correct control input immediately, and an incorrect control input can get you into trouble quickly. Practicing until it's automatic for you eliminates the occasional control mixup, and practicing with wind turned on gets you used to fighting the wind, like you'll have to do in real life.
Just a word about going from tail-in to learning side-in and nose-in...
I found that when I practiced one position at a time, I was simply memorizing a direct mapping of left/right and front/back on my controller to the left/right and front/back movement of the heli for each of these positions. This is not what you ultimately want to learn! What you do want to learn is how to get that "sitting in the cockpit" perspective on the controls, so you can control the heli in any position, and transition smoothly between the positions while maintaining control. Two things that I practiced in the sim that really helped me get this perspective were 1) slowly rotating in place, i.e. hovering and rotating 360 degrees very slowly, and 2) start with tail-in hover, fly forward slowly, and then slowly turn and come back around towards you, nose-in. Both of these exercises helped me to watch the cockpit and move my control perspective with the heli, and not simply memorize that left/right and forward/backward are reversed for nose-in!
Practice until you get so that nose-in is "automatic" for you in the sim (i.e. you don't have to think about the controls very much), then turn the wind on in your sim, say 10mph wind with 20mph gusts, and practice that until that's automatic. Once you get that, you should be pretty well prepared... although nerves can get the better of you sometimes when you're doing it in real life! Without wind, you can usually provide the wrong control input and correct it without getting into trouble, but when it's gusty, you have to provide the correct control input immediately, and an incorrect control input can get you into trouble quickly. Practicing until it's automatic for you eliminates the occasional control mixup, and practicing with wind turned on gets you used to fighting the wind, like you'll have to do in real life.
Just a word about going from tail-in to learning side-in and nose-in...
I found that when I practiced one position at a time, I was simply memorizing a direct mapping of left/right and front/back on my controller to the left/right and front/back movement of the heli for each of these positions. This is not what you ultimately want to learn! What you do want to learn is how to get that "sitting in the cockpit" perspective on the controls, so you can control the heli in any position, and transition smoothly between the positions while maintaining control. Two things that I practiced in the sim that really helped me get this perspective were 1) slowly rotating in place, i.e. hovering and rotating 360 degrees very slowly, and 2) start with tail-in hover, fly forward slowly, and then slowly turn and come back around towards you, nose-in. Both of these exercises helped me to watch the cockpit and move my control perspective with the heli, and not simply memorize that left/right and forward/backward are reversed for nose-in!



