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Old 08-04-2004 | 07:25 PM
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Hi I am new to R/C helicopters and before I make a purchase what is the difference between fixed pitch and collective pitch?
and what are the pros and cons for them. I read that fixed pitch is horrible and should avoid it. So could someone explain to me
the pros and cons thanks alot to anyone who replies
Old 08-04-2004 | 07:49 PM
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The pitch refers to the angle of the rotor blade. Positive pitch would mean the leading edge is a bit higher than the trailing allowing the blade to take a (bite) out of the air. Fixed pitch means that this angle is preset when the blades are made and so if you want to go higher the blades have to turn faster. With collective pitch the pitch is controlled by the pilot so if you wanted to go higher just give it more pitch and the blades will take a bigger bite out of the air without increasing the speed of your motor.
Old 08-04-2004 | 08:06 PM
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Ok ok i get it so basically in order to go higher with fixed pitch I have to give more throttle or increase the engine speed right? or is that preset like it goes to a certain height on its own and with collective pitch the motor is already so to say at full power and you just have to adjust the angel of the collective with the transmitter right
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right with fixed pitch you give it more throttle to go higher with collective pitch, adjust the pitch to go higher.
Old 08-04-2004 | 08:33 PM
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ok thank you for your response it seems like fixed pitch would be better forme right now since im a begginner. Now could someone recommend a fixed pitch helicopter preferably electric
Old 08-05-2004 | 04:08 AM
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I have a semi-related question. How do the cyclic controls on a fixed pitch work? Is it the same as on a collective?
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yes the cyclic controlls are the same BUT the head speed affects how much 'influance' the cyclic has. at low headspeed you have to use lots of stick movement to get the heli to tilt and a little at higher head speed, but with CP the head speed is always high so you dont lose controll at lower headspeed.

connor126: are you looking for a micro heli?
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yes I am looking for a micro electric heli heh the full size electric ones are over $1000 with everything you need but yes
Old 08-05-2004 | 06:21 PM
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hmm im wondering actually later on when I switch to Collective pitch well if i keep this up lol is it hard to get use to or should i just start out with collective pitch immediatly?
Old 08-05-2004 | 07:55 PM
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stick with FP to start out i think because i doesnt realy make much diff only when you are doing aerobatics,
personally i dont think micro helis are 'worth' upgrading into full aerobatic because they get blown around so much outdoors and your not exacly going to be doing loops and stall-turns in your front room

also for a bigginer picth gauges and mixers are a pain in the *****

i recomend you but the best radio system you can afford its the best investment you can make, i baught a FF6 about 2 years ago for my plank because it was the most i could afford and now im into helis its great!

ps: plz plz only buy futaba transmitters

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if you need any help thats just a simple question PM me, ill be happy to help
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Ok thanks now can someone recommend a good electric full size or micro doesnt really matter but i think the full sizes are out of my price range my price limit is $700.00. im also hoping to get a RTF or ARF since I dont have a soldering tool or one that doesnt require soldering.
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If you don't have someone to help you out, fixed pitch is definitely better to start as it's way more simple, no throttle/pitch curves to adjust, no pitch adjusting etc. Plus, since it has less parts, it will be more durable. A fixed pitch heli will help you learn to hover and get you familiar with a heli and the controls first, although a fixed pitch is harder to fly especially in the wind. Reason being is that you have to decrease rotor speed to descend and the lower the headspeed, the less stable the heli becomes, couple that with some wind and you're in for some sticky situations . Definitely stay out of wind when you're starting! If you have somebody who's a little experienced with cp, go straight to cp, the difference in the control you have over the heli with cp is huge.

Definitely get yourself a heli radio like Sabot suggested, you will later thank yourself when you get a cp heli if you don't get one from the start... As far as soldering, a soldering iron is super cheap, you will need to get one and learn to solder if you're gonna stick with this hobby, there's really no way around it without sacrificing performance and reliablilty.

If you don't have anyone to help you out, I'd recommend the Corona for a first heli. It is a fp and very durable, it is absolutely a great heli to learn with and should fall into your range with everything. If you're starting from scratch, you may be looking at a little more than your stated budget because you will need to get batteries, charger etc. The main thing is don't skimp on a radio and get a good head hold gyro, it will help with the learning process and you can use it on later birds.
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Soldering is easy: twist the wire around what your attaching it to, then drip a blob od solder on it, simple,
or - lots of things these days already have the solder on, in which case twist the end around and heat it up with the soldering iron,
always make sure that there is full contact between the surfaces because solder is a poor conductor.
as for attaching capacitor legs to cases get someone to hold one end of it so the other end is pressing against the case then drop some solder over then 'smooth' it over a bit


tips:

you only have to heat the solder, not wires, connectors or cases,

try to get it done quickly so things dont get hot

easy.

im 15 and i can do it pritty well, if not just get your dad or someone to do it for you, Even your Local Hobby Shop will do it for you if you ask nicely and say you cant solder
soldering irons cast about £15
good luck

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Old 08-07-2004 | 05:48 PM
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ok thanks to everyone who replied I have a friend that knows how to solder I guess ill just let him do a few parts and see if he can teach me and ill do the rest. lol if i can. but thanks everyone

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