Hi,
IM a real newb this and i was wondering if theres some sort of ''trainning course that i have to do myself. i have an aero-hawk heli (tiny eletric heli) and i just think its SO hard to fly! well i cant even fly yet, well maybe a 1second hover but then it starts to sway and the BANG CRASH THERES £20 outta my wallet to fix it!

In othere words.....i need to teach my self how to fly, but i dont no how to go about it,.

Thanks, please help![&o]

I sincerely recommend that you get a computer R/C flight simulator like RealFlight G2. If you crash in the simulator, it costs nothing, and it will train you for the real thing. The real thing is hard, and the smaller the heli, the harder it is.

A good simulator will help tremendously. A larger collective pitch heli would make things much easier as well...

1 word, flightsim, i have crashed over 1000 times on the sim. it didnt cost me nuttin. I hav crashed a few times in real life, but it wasnt my fault. The ground keeps getting in the way

yea, sim will help out a lot. If you can't afford it, there are some free sims out there that will give you an idea with the controls at least.

Otherwise, I'm assuming you have training gear? If not, make some, it will help you with initial learning. It's not going to be easy learning with a micro but it is possible, one of the most important things is making sure it's set up right. If it's not set up right, it's difficult to impossible even for an advanced pilot to fly it. Make sure the center of gravity is good and that the fly bar paddles are level and even. You also have to have your gyro set up right. A nice hh gyro will help greatly in this department, especially for learning. If it is at all possible, get someone to physically check out your heli and even hover it for you.

You have to take baby steps when learning, first thing is to practice on smooth ground with the training gear which allows your heli to slide around. Spool it up till it's really light on it's skids and get familiar with the controls, move it around, control the tail etc. Basically try moving it around on the ground like a car till you know exactly what the controls do and it's second nature. Next, lift it off in maybe about a foot at a time and just try to see how it reacts when airborne, this is where you need to get your reflexes going and why you should go through the first step, if the controls aren't natural at this point, it will be impossible for you to try and hover it.

Then, when you can get it a foot at a time and control it for a couple seconds at a time or a few seconds and feel confident, try lifting it off to about 3-4 feet, it will be a lot more stable here out of ground effect and just keep practicing, you'll be on your way to learning to hover.

Other than set up, the most important thing is to get used to making small corrections, the most common mistake of a newbie is making too big of corrections or over correcting, also you need to get used to making smooth throttle changes because abrupt changes will have your heli rotating etc. and will be hard to remain in control. Practice these when it's on the ground in your initial stage and try to hone it when your doing your short hops. You need fast corrections but tiny corrections. An idea to keep in mind is it's kinda like driving a car, imagine if you're on the freeway and when you need to make corrections, you're yanking the wheel in one direction or the other, or when you need to slow down, slam on the brakes and when you need to pick up speed, flooring the gas , same with heli.

hope this helps a bit, these are some tips that helped me while I was learning, some others can give you other ideas too...

really you should learn on a 30 size, they may be more expensive, BUT they are far more easier to learn on, they are more stable, and more robust, it really makes me wonder why ppl are starting to learn on indoor models, they are not designed for that application

go buy a shuttle Z-TS or raptor 30, you will progress far quicker, and it has longer usability, it will not become the limiting factor on your progress as quickly as the aerohawk and similar models (with the exception of the zomm 400/shogun/dolphin, this seems to be up to the standards of a good 30 size model)

or why not try the new E-sky honey bee 3D with collective pitch for aerobatic moves

check it out its far much beter the the E-sky v1 indoor, now there are 2 new E-sky honey bee`s
the E-sky outdoor v2 and the E-sky 3D v3

and they bith come with Li-po battery and charger + simulator

check out the images

the new 4ch E-sky honey bee outdoor v2 (NO collective pitch):



and the latest 6ch E-sky honey bee 3D v3 (With collective pitch):


to check out more details
http://www.EshopJB.com

the micro heli's are harder to fly. B/c they're so small, they're easily moved by the wind, a fan, or a a/c vent. When I had a micro, I always had problems with the signal. My micro always seem to be jittery and the servos would twitch ever once in awhile. It takes some practice learning your eye hand coordination plus learning to control both sticks at the same time.

No .30 size is as durable as a fp micro, I understand a .30 would be easier to learn on but without any physical help, it could be a little more frustrating for a newb to set up the cp. Plus, crash a .30 and you're in for spending some bucks to fix. When I had my Hummingbird, I must've crashed it 20 times or more and I just had to replace a set of blades and a couple of ball links in all those crashes, that's it, a total of maybe $35 in parts for 20++ crashes. A tip with my VE and I had to spend $60 for parts, crashed my Logo 10 in ff and over $150 in parts, so in that respect, a fp micro can be great to learn with, not to mention, you can practice to hover in the comfort of your own home and anytime, day or night, the downfallis that it's tougher to fly. If you have or can get someone to physically help you out, by all means, jump to a cp heli and you will be amazed at the control you have. I have an Eolo Pro and this thing flies like a .30, I also feel more comfortable with the Eolo in the wind than I did with my Logo 10! I'm always flying in 25-30mph wind and it handles it like a champ. It all depends on the budget you have and the size heli you want to go with. If you don't wish to spend any more $ right now, just practice and stick to it, don't quit, you will get it before you know it and when you finally able to hold a controlled hover, you will feel like screaming with joy! It's an unexplainable feeling, this is a very rewarding hobby.