i want opinions on which would be yhe better first heli. i'm actually more interested in which one will hold up to more crashes,as it seems that that they are a big part of learning to fly

I pretty much really like the build quality of my Quick 30 Pros, the Learner is very similar in a lot of aspect and comes with G-10 frames which here is nothing wrong with that I would gurantee you . It is very durable and built with percision in mind with many upgrades on similar 30 sized helis right out of the the box...

FF2 did a review on the Quick 30 Learner check it out: Under RCU Mag-
http://www.rcuniverse.com/reviews.ph...ew&reviewid=81
Just my opinion mind you..

I can only comment on the Quick 30 Pro carbon fiber. It is great. It is my first heli and has held up after many crashes. I definitely recommend a simulator to help with hovering around first.

Please note that when I say held up, I mean it was rebuildable. Everything just unbolts and you bolt the new one on. I've only every broken main blades, tail blades, fly bar, boom. Nothing too major.

Enjoy.

It will be easier to fly the Quick then the LMH. It is a lot easier with a heli that has collective pitch. Most crashes during learning are very minimal and a crash kit will fix it. Get a sim and learn which will get you over fears of crashing.

i have a LMH for sale look in the classified section its RTF with RD6000 and a starter so u just buy a glow heater and fuel and off u go e-mail me if u want a link