Hey guys!

Last time I was on this website I was asking nooby questions about drifting, now it's time to give another department a go!

I have about $300 NZD to spend, and I have no experience at all, and by that, I mean nothing.

I want to have a heli that is cheap to fix, indoor/outdoor, and very reliable. Can I also please have some info about the motors? All these numbers are hard to learn, so I don't want to buy a cheapo.

Thanks heaps!

Heli/Drift Noob

First, there are almost no helis that are good for both indoors and outdoors. If it's small enough to fly indoors then it's too small to fly outdoors, if it's big enough to handle decent wind outdoors it's usually too big to fly indoors.

I suggest you just get a co-axial or small 100 or 200 size for indoors and a 400/450 for outdoors. You could do that buy buying both an esky lama v4 for indoors and a esky belt cp for outdoors. Should be between $300 to $350 from Hong Kong. Most helis in the price range you're looking at come with motors.

Buy Heli simulator and play everyday night for about one month, and then buy heli max cp-l($200.00).
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXSWV2**&P=3
That's what I did...by myself.

I would go with Druss' suggestion, as the axe cp-l, and other similar small helis are not the best thing at all to learn on. Yes it can be done, but it is a monumental challenge compared to going from a lama v4 to a belt cp with sim time to supplement the learning process. If I had the whole thing to do over again, I would get a lama v4 and a quality sim such as Real Flight G4 or something like that, then I would save again while I was learning with the lama and the sim, and when I had enough I would either get a belt cp, or save more and spend the money on a Black Hawk 500 rtf. When it comes to outdoor flying, bigger is better, because the bigger it is, the more stable it is, and the better able it is to handle wind. Though bigger is also more expensive, so you have to take your budget into consideration. The term "you get what you pay for" seems to hold more true in the helicopter hobby than it does in most other aspects, so it will pay off in the end if you exercise a little patience in the beginning to save enough money to get quality equipment to learn on and move up to as you progress. Just my 2 pennies.

try the walkera 36, it's onle $129 at heli direct, then you can upgrade to lipo first then the motor and the speed control, or check with tower about the helimax mx400, only for $59.00 only as kit.

Walkera 36 whatever. By the time you get the lipo, compatible charger, motor, and speed control, you have already spent more than you would on a Belt CP with spare parts, and it COMES with lipo, balancing charger, brushless motor and esc for only 180 USD plus shipping. With the MX 400 it is the same. After the motor, esc, gyro, radio set, any extra servos, battery, and charger, you will be way over what the Belt cp and extras will cost.

Thanks for your help guys.

I've just come home from a browse around the local hobby stores. All the shopkeepers recommended the Lama, and even some customers recommended it. Their worth 165-200 NZD in store, but I've sourced a brand new kit off Trade Me (bit like Ebay) for just 140 NZD+5 postage. Exactly the same thing, but cheaper.

Only problem with the Lama is it is ugly... but can't start off with top shelf... just gonna smash it up hehe.

Thanks again.