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Old 09-04-2003 | 03:20 PM
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I'm a planker now getting into helis. I'm into forward flight and am interested in opinions. When flying a plane I would look at the wings to gauge whether the plane was rolled a little to the right or left. When flying the heli, I sometimes look at the rotor disc to gauge the same thing. I mentioned this to a club member who is strictly heli only and he said that I should never look at the disc, only the body and that I would catch grief from some heli pilots for doing that. I understand that the disc tilts during maneuvers or when roll or elevator is input, but I am only thinking of the heli as it flys by left to right or vice versa. Opinions? (And reasons if possible please)
Old 09-04-2003 | 09:39 PM
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Use any and all surfaces for gauging orientation. Disc, body, skids, etc., in combination can help.

When my heli is far away, I sometimes use the sunlight reflection off the main disc to tell which way it's facing.

My recommendation is that you don't get fixated on one area of the heli. Use all points of the heli to help in orientation.
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Sharam is right. Dont look at any one part, but the heli as a whole unit.

Orientation of the heli, becomes natural as you progress in your training from hovering to forward flight to acro to 3D.

I lose orientation watching others fly sometimes, but rarely when I fly. Its because I know which way it is turning/flipping/rolling/pirouetteing etc when Im in control.

you will find progress difficult if you develop a BAD habit of using the disc, tail boom, skids, or worse - training gear balls, as a reference for the helis orientation. You MUST use them all together, and see the heli as an entire unit.

Not as daunting as it sounds in real life...

I see you're already in forward flight, and in my opinion if the heli is flying toward or away from you do need to look at the disc (as well as the fuselage) to determine if the heli is straight and level. After all, the disc is the helis wings. When the heli is at any distance, i find the tail, pod, and disc the 3 critical (and only) visible cues.
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If you learn to soft focus your eyesight so you're looking at the entire helli not one part of it thats ideal. You don't need sharp focus to be able to fly, you need multiple points of refrence. If you know how to juggle it's the same thing. You can't juggle looking at any one ball you have to focus on a point in space that's equal distant to all three balls.
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"soft focus" - what an excellent term. Precisely what i was trying to define.
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"soft focus" - now that's a great term.
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Soft focus is it. It's the technique I use for girl watching at the beach.

Actually, I look at the skids if it's close enough. When it's further away, I see the canopy and boom. I've never had any luck looking at the disk.
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