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Old 11-06-2003 | 12:56 PM
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Default Set up question

I heard there was a post somewhere here about general Heli set up. I searched on "set up" in each of these forums, but couldn't find anything.

Could someone point me there? I just bought a used Freya with a YS 61. It "should" be all set up, but you know how that goes.

Thanks.
Old 11-06-2003 | 01:32 PM
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Default RE: Set up question

I searched for set up in "all" heli forums. This is what I came up with. Hope it helps
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/searchpro.asp?phrase=set+up&forumid=cat_228&produc t=&topicreply=combined&message=both&author=&timefr ame=%3E&timefilter=0&language=single&top=300&crite ria=AND&minRank=10&sortMethod=d&submitbutton=+OK+]set up search[/link]

You can also look in the Hirobo - Sceadu, Shuttle & Freya forum, and/or ask more specific questions there. Good luck with the new heli!
Old 11-06-2003 | 03:39 PM
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Mike, if it was the one I suggested, it is the one stuck at top titled RC heli safty, giving tips to help people getting started.

Also you can go to the freya forum and there should be lots on that heli. Good luck.
Old 11-06-2003 | 09:00 PM
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Would be a very good idea to have someone experienced help you out with the set up. No two setups are exactly the same, because there will be some small diferences in the birds and personal preferences, but the basic idea is that you set travels fo the servos so you have 0 pitch at mid stick (left stick) and -9 to + 9 degrees at bottom and top position. Might be a good idea to start with lower pitch, maybe 8 degrees? Heli TX's allow you to define "Curves" to alter the responce between stick movement and pitch change, but most folks use a straight line for pitch. For example, if your TX offers 3 point curves you would have a pitch curve of 0, 50%, 100% or if you want to reduce the pitch range temporarily, 10%, 50%, 90%.

For throtle, you use a throtle curve to mix your throtle range to the pitch. What you are trying to achive is idle at low stick, somthing around half throttle or maybe a little less for that bad boy, and you will want a seting close to full at high stick. if you are using 3 point curves, the settings would be somthing like 25%, 40%, 70% it would be a good idea to start a littel low for your throtle settings. what this curve is for is to help keep the head speed constant thruought the pitch range. what you are looking for to start is 1500 or 1600 RPM, when the stick is at 50% or higher. Maybe a little faster 1700-1800 once you get into aerobatics. A good way to get the throtle curve dialed in is to put a board thru the skids and load it down with bricks then fire the beast up and measure the head speed with your airplane Tach. Just prop the tach up against a rock or somthing so it points at the blades. before you do this make sure your throttle is at idle setting! it is a real pain in the ***** to start one up and find you are at full throttle, so be very sure that idle is low stck and that you can shut it down.

Be sure to have a firm grip on the head when you start it up just in case. if you need to shut down, pull the fuel line loose.

Once you have the pitch and throtle set, check your cyclic. if you push forward ont he right stick you should see the disk and heli flex nose down, do the same for back and left and right. you can set your cyclic rates to just about anything, but a low rate that goes maybe 4 or 5 degrees on the paddles would be good to start.

there is lots more, curves for normal and aerobatic flight, tail set up, tuning, a heck of a lot of new stuff to learn. take your time.
Old 11-07-2003 | 04:54 PM
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Default RE: Set up question

-9 to +9, he sounds like he is only a beginner. If you gets nervous and slams the throttle down then he will get a bad boom strike.

Pitch

A begginers setup should be +2 to +10 with +6 in the middle. +6 should get you a good hovering headspeed. Put about 30% expo in and set the rates to 6 degrees cyclic.

Engine

You should ask poeple online what settings they are running on their YS 61 with your muffler. Get their settings and and set it a few clicks richer. Later on you can set it to an optimal setting, but you want to make sure you don't run lean. If you hear a grinding sound like you have a problem with your main gear while hovering, then the engine is lean. Remember that.

gyro

If you don't have a gyro then get the 401. In a beginners state you can leave the gain at 100%, if the tail shakes lower your headspeed. I notice that a 401 with 100% gain can't take more than 1600 headspeed, but that depends on other stuff too. You just need to set the direction and plug it into the right channels. Rudder and gear if you have a 6 channel. Rudder and aux2 if you have a 8 or more channel.
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Default RE: Set up question

Flyboy,

Yup, I was looking for the one you mentioned. Thanks for the suggestion.

Spaceman,

As always, thanks. Although I was just going to max everything out like I do with the throws on my Fun Fly planes! NOT. And, yes I will be getting lots of help from the guys at our club and others.

da_man,

Thanks for that input too. Considering Heli's don't glide quite as well as planes, I don't want to get into a situation I can't control and slam the sticks (as I might with my planes) and screw something up or cause a dangerous situation.

And BTW, a 401/ 9253 combo is coming courtesy of Flyboy.[8D]

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