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Old 06-05-2007 | 08:18 PM
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Default DX6 WHY A PARK FLYER

WHY IS THE DX6 CONSIDERED A PARK FLYER, AND IS THERE ANY UPGRADE TO MAKE IT A FULL FUNCTIONAL RADIO FOR NON PARK FLYERS LIKE THE DX7?
Old 06-05-2007 | 08:22 PM
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I think it mostly has to do with the range and the response time. The dx6 is considerably slower sending the signal than the dx7. I think there might also be less range on the dx6 compared to the dx7, but then again I could be blwoing smoke =)
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One way that I can think of to make it a full range system would be to buy the Futaba 6ex 2.4ghz!!! J/K, this radio is a full range 6 channel spread spectrum radio though with about the same features as the DX6, it just isnt compatible with Spektrums system. One thing to note though is that the Futaba has a 5 point throttle/pitch curve wheras the DX6 has only a three point. Although Spektrum was the first to the plate with its 2.4ghz system and they do work exceptionally well, both JR and Futaba now have/are coming out with their own systems that have different features, some better, others not so much. It will be interesting to see how a little competition affects this technolgy.
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There is no different in range of the two radios. 1 has 6 channles and the other has 7. The 6DX is a top notch full rang radio and is used for things other than park flyers. The sending speed and strngths are the same. The difference in what a park flyer is that you get micro servos and batteries in the package. The micro servos would not have enough strength for a .40 size bird. The receiver and transmitter would work great in other things. You would only have to get bigger batteries and servos. The bigger radios usually only differ in that they have more programs, end points and mixes. Yes, the Futaba in a great radio and worth every bite of the $199. I use Futaba and JR and plan to upgrade to the 2.4 modules.

Hope this helps

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Old 06-07-2007 | 01:42 AM
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ORIGINAL: dooleyje

There is no different in range of the two radios. 1 has 6 channles and the other has 7. The 6DX is a top notch full rang radio and is used for things other than park flyers. The sending speed and strngths are the same. The difference in what a park flyer is that you get micro servos and batteries in the package. The micro servos would not have enough strength for a .40 size bird. The receiver and transmitter would work great in other things. You would only have to get bigger batteries and servos. The bigger radios usually only differ in that they have more programs, end points and mixes. Yes, the Futaba in a great radio and worth every bite of the $199. I use Futaba and JR and plan to upgrade to the 2.4 modules.

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this is right off of the spektum webpage
"So while the AR6000's superior range may tempt its use in "regular" sport aircraft, please don't do it. Use the DX6 for park-flyers only. It will provide a very safe, satisfying experience for your parkies."

this too
"Why parkflyers only?
This unit was specifically developed for sport park fliers use. It has plenty of range for parkflyers. Just as we have a different product for airplanes than cars, we'll have a different product for sport flying aircraft that fly at a much farther average range than a parkflyer. We wanted to keep this unit small, light and affordable - all attributes we felt park fliers need. Sport flyers have different needs - and we will have products for them, all in good time."

it can't be just the range though because the dx6 runs up to 1/2 mile

this is off of the dx7 comparing it to the dx6. Latency means response time, so there it is in writing that the dx6 is slower than the dx7 just because it is a dsm radio and the dx7 is a dsm2 =)

"A: DSM2™ technology is Spektrum’s second-generation proprietary spread spectrum protocol. DSM2 (Digital Spektrum Modulation 2nd version) is optimized to allow all types and sizes of aircraft to be flown. With DSM2, latency has been greatly reduced and, in fact, the system offers faster response time than any brand of 72MHz PCM system."

also according to the website the dx7 has more range than the dx6 because they say do not fly giant scale rc with the dx6 because you could go out of range, and it says the dx7 is suitable for all sorts of sizes and makes of rc, and has a 33% knife edge 540 on the tesimonials page

quote from page 2 on the dx6 manual
"The DX6 system is designed for parkflyer type aircraft only. This includes all forms of compact electric and
non-powered airplanes as well as micro electric helicopters. While the system has more than adequate range for
these types of aircraft, it is imperative that the system not be used in larger aircraft that could exceed the range."

here is where I got all the info. Look it up for yourself if you need to
http://www.spektrumrc.com/Articles/A...ArticleID=1624
http://www.spektrumrc.com/Articles/A...ArticleID=1535

http://www.spektrumrc.com/ProdInfo/Files/DX6_Maunal.pdf
http://www.spektrumrc.com/ProdInfo/F...DX7_Manual.pdf

the info is all there and it just happens to support what I happened to be saying =)
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Thanks for the info and correction.

JIM
Old 06-08-2007 | 02:17 AM
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ORIGINAL: dooleyje

Thanks for the info and correction.

JIM

hey man =) no problemo, and thanks for how you responded =)

have a good one and take it easy [8D]
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Do you think that it could safely be used in my Hobbico Electristar Select RTF?

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXNVC0**&P=0

It uses three Futaba S3003 standard servos with a seperate Rx battery. What would be the limitations to using it on this plane?
Old 06-20-2007 | 01:11 AM
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if you're talking a dx6, sure thing. That plane is a park flier =)

As far as limitations, the only one your gone even need to concern yourself with is range, and of course proper setup. Just unhook the motor, and have a buddy. have some walkie talkies or call each other on the cell phone (which runs in the same freq range as the DSM does, which might be a good interference type test) and while you are moving the servo's, walk as far away from the plane as you can. Remember to keep the antenna on the DX6 pointed up because it's waves travel like a doughnut. You should get pretty good range out of it though.
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Default RE: DX6 WHY A PARK FLYER

As Jim said above, it is a full range radio. I'm using it it in 40 size electrics. Range on the spectrum website is 2500 ft. My planes are just a dot that far away.
Old 06-22-2007 | 07:41 PM
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hrm, the last time I checked 40 size fliers are park fliers =) so it will work fine for those and for most other aircraft of that size, of course except competition performance aircraft where lantency is very important.

quote from page 2 on the dx6 manual
"The DX6 system is designed for parkflyer type aircraft only. This includes all forms of compact electric and
non-powered airplanes as well as micro electric helicopters. While the system has more than adequate range for
these types of aircraft, it is imperative that the system not be used in larger aircraft that could exceed the range."
http://www.spektrumrc.com/ProdInfo/Files/DX6_Maunal.pdf

If the mfg says that it is not a full range radio... then unfortunately it's not a full range radio, although it will work for many aircraft out there.

again though, the main question was what is the difference between the dx6 and the dx7, not if the dx6 had plenty of rnage for a 40 sized flier, which it obviously does =)

I'm not trying to be confrontational, but hopefully that makes sense.
Old 06-24-2007 | 09:58 PM
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i use a dx6 on my .46 nitro seamaster and have never had range problems....i've had it so far out that i couldnt distinguish orientation and it still worked. there was a similar discussion about this radio on rc groups...a guy did a test and never lost signal at over 4000ft...thats a lot farther than probably 98% of us fly at.so i wouldnt worry about range being a problem
Old 06-24-2007 | 10:15 PM
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First a Hobbico Electristar Select RTF is NOT a park flier. Park fliers are small, usually less than 36" span and use small electrics, a 370/ 400 or smaller. They are usually slow and do not require large spaces to fly (hence the name), no more than a couple hundred feet square.

Second, it is not us that says the DX6 is for PARK FLIERS ONLY, it is the manufacturer. Can it work for larger aircraft, probably, can it work for helos close in, more than probably. That and all the OPINIONS on here do not change the fact the manufacturer says it's for park fliers only. Using something out of it's design parameters might work fine, might work fine for a period of time, or might not work at all.... If you are the type to take short cuts like this what are you going to do when changing the oil on your car? Well oil is oil so why not use Wesson cooking oil? You might get your car a hundred miles before you ruin the motor, maybe five hundred... And if you take these short cuts on your pride and joy latest helo what othe short cuts are you taking on it, gear lash, belt tightness, maintenance... My 2cents...

BTW the Hobbico Electristar Select RTF looks pretty nice....
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Evan-RCU and mrasmm both are abo****ly right. The DX6 is NOT a full range radio. Whoever told you this or wherever you got that information, it is wrong. No offical Spektrum website will tell you the DX6 is a full range radio. I agree with Evan 100%. You are taking a chance by flying your helicopter, or anything other than a parkflyer, with a DX6. I know there are people out there who do it. And just because you have gotten away with it on a .46 seaplane, doesn't mean you are going to get away with it on everything else you fly. I am not going to sit here and try to convince you that you shouldn't do it. But I will say that I think you are risking your investment, and the saftey of others as well as yourself.

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