Hi All, sorry if my question comes up twice! it disapeared off my screen.
Anyway, this is my first post to this forum. I am a newbee who has been bitten by the heli bug. I have not flown a rc heli yet so I am expecting a few crashes! I have seen a concept 60 for sale and would like someone to give me there opinion on the spec etc. I have copied a section of the advert below. Also can someone tell me if you can put difrent bodies like the airwolf on the concept 60? Thanking you all in advance. Cheers Mark

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This helicopter is as new, and has only had 2 ten minute test flights. Its a big copter, very fast, very powerful, fully aerobatic and has full autorotation capabilities.

Every component, cooling fan, clutch, main rotor head, flybar, rotor blades, tail rotor have been carefully checked and balanced before, during and after assembly to ensure the heli is as true running as possible.

Every single ball link and joint has been polished to give a perfect fit with smooth operating linkages, which will make the heli fly incredibly smoothly.

It is powered by an O.S. 61 F.S.H engine and black silencer.

The 4 cyclic, throttle and pitch servos are JR NES-517, and have new heavy duty JR servo arms fitted.

The tail rotor servo is a top quality Futaba digital S9253 servo which can keep up with the continuous inputs made by the gyro. In fact, it can pull 2.0 kg/cm torque, and will move the full 60° in 0.08 seconds! That’s fast! All servo linkages and ball joints have also been polished to give slop / stick free control responses.

Speaking of the gyro, the helicopter has an excellent quality Futaba GY401 heading hold / rate gyro switchable from your transmitter. The rate setting is ideal for fast flight and aerobatics, whilst the heading hold (AVCS - Angular Vector Control System) is perfect for hovering and general flying. The combination of this gyro and digital servo makes for a very predictable tail rotor response.

Also installed in this helicopter is a JR S-PCM 649S 9 channel receiver. A small light weight receiver of excellent quality, and being PCM allows you to use the fail-safe function of your radio. Its installed in a Quick UK crash box, which protects the delicate circuitry from vibration during flight or heavy landings. All the wiring is neatly tied in and is powered by an 1100 battery and JR switch harness / charger lead.

The fuel system has been carefully assembled with the addition of new thick walled silicone tubing, and a Quick UK 60cc header tank with blue anodised aluminium strap. A new anodised fuel filter is installed in the carburettor feed line.

A new O.S. No8 glow plug is installed with a high quality silicone wired remote glow adapter, to make connecting a glow clip really easy. The engine is rear cone start.

This is an awesome looking machine and is very visible in the sky.

The canopy windscreen has a small crack in it, but its been cyanoed together and isn’t visible when it’s in use.

Also included is full instructions and build manual for the helicopter, engine, header tank and gyro.

So what your getting is a very powerful fully ball bearing 60 sized helicopter powered by a 60 sized engine by one of the best model engine manufacturers, a top quality radio PCM-S reciever with 4 JR servos and heavy duty servo arms, a dual rate heading hold gyro with digital rudder servo, header tank, remote glow start, balanced rotor blades (weight and spanwise C.G.) Custom paint job and full instructions.
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Hard to make a judgement here with no price indicated but I see a few things that cause concern. The 517's are not up to snuff for a 60 size machine, the Heli itself is still useable but somewhat out of date as is the engine and few Helis use rear cone starting anymore - most are top starters now (not too big of an issue). The gyro and tail servo are current and well suited to the Heli. It might be a good Heli to get started with
if it is priced right and if parts for it are still easily available.

Keep in mind many start with a 30 size machine which keeps crash damage costs down.

You will need to do some homework to see how the asking price of this Heli compares with current model similarly equipped Helis and see how the cost benefit ratio works out. Also do you have a JR PCM compatible Transmitter to use for this Heli?

The Concept 60 was a very good helicopter and mine flew very well. For a beginner however the costs of repair will I think be high as there are not too many cheap parts available for the machine. The cone start is a disaster for a 60 size chopper and needs to be changed for the metal fan with the hex start centre. If you must start with a 60 I would seriously look at the raptor as repair costs are not that much higher than some 30 size helis with the exception of the blades if you choose to run good ones. My advice would be start with a 30, you will have accidents and even minor ones with a 60 can be expensive, unless of course you have a bottomless wallet !!.

Best wishes.

I agree with the others here. I flew the SR60 for over 2 1/2 years and it was a great heli in it's day. Getting parts for it may be a problem and the stock heli needed some upgrades to keep it reliable. Finding these upgrades will be difficult. The 517's will not last much more that 4 gallons or so and I cannot recommend them even for a 30 class heli. They are fine in a trainer plank but the vibration and the loads a heli place on the servo's make them not so good. Start with a 30 and move on from there. If you get a 30 like the V2 Rappy you can upgrade it to a 50 later and save $$$ on parts and crashes.

Thanks for your replies. I think I will do more research before purchasing a heli. I saw this one on an auction so the impulse bug kicked in!....cheers and thanks once again.

Go to your flying field and see what you're mates are flying, I can bet it's not a Kyosho. I'm not going to bash anything, however I would do some research into what is the best bang for the buck.